Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-security

Alexander Zimmermann <alexander.zimmermann@nets.rwth-aachen.de> Tue, 02 March 2010 10:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-security
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Dear Alfred,

> 
> That's why this WG does not fulfill its mission and does not perform
> actual maintenance of the protocols it pretends to shepherd.
> 

this is the second time that I read such a statement from you. It's
simply not true. The WG performs maintenance... What's about

RFC 5681 - TCP Congestion Control => Maintenance
RFC 5682 - F-RTO => Maintenance
draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis => Maintenance
draft-paxson-tcpm-rfc2988bis  => Maintenance
draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpmss => Maintenance
draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-auth-opt => Maintenance
draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-lcd => Maintenance in a broader sense
draft-ietf-tcpm-sack-recovery-entry => Maintenance
...

You should not tar everything with the same brush, only because you are
dissatisfied with the progress of one (or two) particular ID.

> Please either shut down the WG now, or (what I would prefer much more)
> encourage implementors to return and raise their voice again in the WG,
> and commit to adhere to the principles Jari Arkko had recalled recently,
> namely that the IETF should much more listen again to running code and
> experience.

The WG listens to running code. For example
"draft-ietf-tcpm-sack-recovery-entry": The author Ilpo Jarvinen is currently
the most active TCP Linux implementer!


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