Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-security
Alexander Zimmermann <alexander.zimmermann@nets.rwth-aachen.de> Tue, 02 March 2010 10:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-security
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Dear Alfred, > > That's why this WG does not fulfill its mission and does not perform > actual maintenance of the protocols it pretends to shepherd. > this is the second time that I read such a statement from you. It's simply not true. The WG performs maintenance... What's about RFC 5681 - TCP Congestion Control => Maintenance RFC 5682 - F-RTO => Maintenance draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis => Maintenance draft-paxson-tcpm-rfc2988bis => Maintenance draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpmss => Maintenance draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-auth-opt => Maintenance draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-lcd => Maintenance in a broader sense draft-ietf-tcpm-sack-recovery-entry => Maintenance ... You should not tar everything with the same brush, only because you are dissatisfied with the progress of one (or two) particular ID. > Please either shut down the WG now, or (what I would prefer much more) > encourage implementors to return and raise their voice again in the WG, > and commit to adhere to the principles Jari Arkko had recalled recently, > namely that the IETF should much more listen again to running code and > experience. The WG listens to running code. For example "draft-ietf-tcpm-sack-recovery-entry": The author Ilpo Jarvinen is currently the most active TCP Linux implementer! // // Dipl.-Inform. Alexander Zimmermann // Department of Computer Science, Informatik 4 // RWTH Aachen University // Ahornstr. 55, 52056 Aachen, Germany // phone: (49-241) 80-21422, fax: (49-241) 80-22220 // email: zimmermann@cs.rwth-aachen.de // web: http://www.umic-mesh.net //
- [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-se… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… L.Wood
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Lars Eggert
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Lars Eggert
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… L.Wood
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Alexander Zimmermann
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [tcpm] Feedback request on draft-ietf-tcpm-tc… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Feedbackt on draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure… Smith, Donald
- Re: [tcpm] Feedbackt on draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure… Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] Feedbackt on draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure… Smith, Donald
- Re: [tcpm] Feedbackt on draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure… Smith, Donald
- Re: [tcpm] Feedbackt on draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure… Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)