Re: [tcpm] 793bis ready to go?

Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> Tue, 04 May 2021 02:32 UTC

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From: Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com>
To: "Scheffenegger, Richard" <rs.ietf@gmx.at>, Michael Tuexen <michael.tuexen@lurchi.franken.de>, Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] 793bis ready to go?
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On 2/21/2021 9:33 AM, Scheffenegger, Richard wrote:
> Well, making the transmission of the ACK-only-the-SYN optional when data
> is present, which needs to be ACK'd anyway..
>
> That way, current FBSD and Linux behaviour both would comply with
> 793bis, while I agree with Michael T. that the behavior of FBSD is more
> efficient.

The different behaviors seem important to document, though it wasn't 
clear to me that the WG thread here had converged to a specific change, 
so for now I simply added note of this condition:

    Some TCP implementations suppress sending this segment when the
    received segment contains data that will anyways generate an
    acknowledgement in the later processing steps, saving this separate
    extra acknowledgement of the SYN from being sent.

This is kind of a weak statement, since it doesn't really say whether 
this is "right" or "wrong".  If there is agreement in the WG, then we 
could make a stronger statement.