Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 1 of 2 - Editorial Comments
Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> Tue, 17 December 2019 18:25 UTC
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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 1 of 2 - Editorial Comments
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> On 17 Dec, 2019, at 7:12 pm, Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> wrote: > > I was looking at the way "crash" is used on a case-by-case basis, and I think we could mostly change this to "endpoint failures" or a host "rebooting" rather than "crashing"? Is there any other terminology or condition that should be explicitly mentioned somehow? The important point in most places where "crash" is used is that the host has lost all of its memory about connections in-progress and associated connection state, and that's easy to retain without saying "crash". I think using "reboot" would be a good substitute here. - Jonathan Morton
- [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 1 of … Gorry Fairhurst
- [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 2 of … Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 2… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 2… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 2… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 2… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 1… Wesley Eddy
- Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 1… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 1… Rodney W. Grimes
- Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 1… Wesley Eddy
- Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 1… Jonathan Morton
- Re: [tcpm] review of rev 14 of RFC 793 bis part 1… Rodney W. Grimes
- [tcpm] 793bis: TCP Quiet Time Wesley Eddy
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: TCP Quiet Time Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: TCP Quiet Time Neal Cardwell
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: TCP Quiet Time Matt Mathis
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: TCP Quiet Time Joe Touch
- [tcpm] 793bis: variable MTU Wesley Eddy
- [tcpm] 793bis: reset generation section Wesley Eddy
- [tcpm] 793bis: IPv6 jumbograms Wesley Eddy
- [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Wesley Eddy
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID David Borman
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: variable MTU Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: TCP Quiet Time Matt Mathis
- [tcpm] 793bis: dead gateway detection Wesley Eddy
- [tcpm] 793bis: delayed ACKs Wesley Eddy
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID David Borman
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID David Borman
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: delayed ACKs Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: TCP Quiet Time Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: TCP Quiet Time Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: TCP Quiet Time Matt Mathis
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: TCP Quiet Time Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: TCP Quiet Time Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] 793bis: IP ID Joe Touch