Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure
"Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)" <ananth@cisco.com> Tue, 08 April 2008 01:46 UTC
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From: "Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)" <ananth@cisco.com>
To: Ted Faber <faber@ISI.EDU>, Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU>
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure
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Ted, > -----Original Message----- > From: tcpm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tcpm-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Ted Faber > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:24 PM > To: Joe Touch > Cc: tcpm@ietf.org; Fernando Gont > Subject: Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure > > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 02:02:26PM -0700, Joe Touch wrote: > > Fair enough. It can warn - in the security considerations - > that these > > protections assume corresponding protections on ICMPs, > however. I.e., > > it would be incorrect to recommend, but it can warn that "without > > corresponding ICMPs, this document may not provide the > desired protection" > > I think the quoted text, including a citation to an > appropriate document, would be an excellent addition to the > security concerns section of this document. That's speaking > as an individual. Like it has been pointed out above, it would be incorrect to make any recommendation about ICMP or any other form of attack vectors in the tcpsecure doc since this document is not meant to be a repository of all currently known ( and going to be discovered in the near future ;-) attacks on TCP. So, IMO the verbiage needs to be chosen carefully if the consensus is to provide a pointer to the ICMP doc in the security consideration section. I would like to simply put an informative note telling "spoofed ICMP packets may also result in TCP connection stability issues, and this is discussed in more depth in......." or something of that sort. $0.02, -Anantha > > -- > Ted Faber > http://www.isi.edu/~faber PGP: > http://www.isi.edu/~faber/pubkeys.asc > Unexpected attachment on this mail? See > http://www.isi.edu/~faber/FAQ.html#SIG > _______________________________________________ tcpm mailing list tcpm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm
- [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Joe Touch
- [tcpm] ICMP error origination timeliness Pekka Savola
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP error origination timeliness Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP error origination timeliness Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] ICMP error origination timeliness Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Ted Faber
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Some comments on tcpsecure Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)