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Re: [tcpm] tcpsecure: how strong to recommend?

Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Sat, 06 October 2007 01:16 UTC

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Ted Faber wrote:
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> I do think it makes TCP slightly more robust, but the occurrances that
> would trigger that robustness are pretty unusual.  The most common cause of
> that uncommon set is malice.  Do you think that concentrating on the
> likelihood of bad RSTs (and SYNs and data) showing up would steer us
> back toward the recommendation level?

I don't think considering these RSTs/SYNs/data issues more than
malicious is appropriate, and I do think that has a lot to do with the
recommendation level.

Joe


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