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Re: [tcpm] On allocating reserved bits in the TCP header

"Scharf, Michael" <Michael.Scharf@hs-esslingen.de> Mon, 04 November 2019 08:11 UTC

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From: "Scharf, Michael" <Michael.Scharf@hs-esslingen.de>
To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>, Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>
CC: Mirja Kühlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net>, "tcpm@ietf.org" <tcpm@ietf.org>, Richard Scheffenegger <rscheff@gmx.at>, Bob Briscoe <in@bobbriscoe.net>
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I believe that 793bis gets more and more mature. We will need further reviews in the next months. Given that this is a -bis for an Internet Standard, there are unknowns… The tentative plan is a WGLC early 2020.



A short PS focusing just on the assignment could perhaps be finished faster than 793bis. And that approach would also not change the scope of 793bis, i.e., 793bis would only include changes with IETF consensus.



Because of that, I would slightly prefer a short dedicated PS. But 793bis would also work for me. Any formally correct solution is better than a process violation.



Michael





Von: Lars Eggert<mailto:lars@eggert.org>
Gesendet: Montag, 4. November 2019 08:55
An: Joe Touch<mailto:touch@strayalpha.com>
Cc: Scharf, Michael<mailto:Michael.Scharf@hs-esslingen.de>; Mirja Kühlewind<mailto:ietf@kuehlewind.net>; tcpm@ietf.org<mailto:tcpm@ietf.org>; Richard Scheffenegger<mailto:rscheff@gmx.at>; Bob Briscoe<mailto:in@bobbriscoe.net>
Betreff: Re: [tcpm] On allocating reserved bits in the TCP header



On 2019-11-4, at 5:08, Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> wrote:
> Why do we need this process exception?
>
> We have 793bis in process. If we need to assign a bit in the header - to any specific use or as experimental - that seems like the appropriate venue in which to do so.

If the timelines align, that would be the obvious place to stick that assignment, agreed.

But I'm not sure the timelines do align. 793bis seems to progress at a slow-but-steady pace (I'll point out it was supposed to be done two years ago...) but it seems likely that experiments want to happen sooner.

Lars

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