Re: [tcpm] TCP-AO Option Layout - Alignment and Padding
YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明 <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org> Tue, 29 July 2008 10:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] TCP-AO Option Layout - Alignment and Padding
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Hello. In article <488EF15F.4070302@isi.edu> (at Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:30:55 -0700), Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> says: > | With this layout, An implementation will end up put it like this > | +---------+---------+ > | | Kind=?? | Length | > | +---------+---------+ > | +--------------...--+---------+ > | | MAC | KeyID | > | +--------------...--+---------+ > > Why is this the case? IP with no options is 20 bytes; the base TCP is 20 > bytes, so the options begin aligned; noting that most MAC sizes are > multiples of 4 bytes, the alignment is most likely to result in: > > ~ +---------+---------+--------------------+ > ~ | Kind=?? | Length | MAC... | > ~ +---------+---------+--------------------+ > ~ ... > ~ .... > ~ +-------------------+---------+ > ~ | MAC | KeyID | > ~ +-------------------+---------+ > > In this case, the prepad is 0 and the postpad is 1, but the MAC is only > half-word aligned. Well, memory cop works much better if the memory regions are on 32bit word aligned. (We put timestamp etc.'s "value" on 32bit aligned.) > If we want to reduce padding and keep the MAC aligned, the best option is: > > ~ +---------+---------+---------+---------+ > ~ | Kind=?? | Length | KeyID | 0 | > ~ +---------+---------+---------+---------+ > ~ ... > ~ ... > ~ +---------------------------------------+ > ~ | MAC... | > ~ +---------------------------------------+ I support this. > I.e., pad ourselves. We suggest that the option start word-aligned. This > wastes space, IMO. I don't think this is a waste of space and good thing to have - to save CPU cycle(s). > I would favor a more economical approach that recognizes that a few bits > of MAC could be sacrificed for our KeyID, e.g.: > > ~ +---------+---------+-----+--------------+ > ~ | Kind=?? | Length | KID | MAC'... | > ~ +---------+---------+-----+--------------+ > ~ ... > ~ .... > ~ +-------------------+ > ~ | MAC' | > ~ +-------------------+ > > Use 2 bits for the KID; 1 is insufficient, and 2 is more than sufficient > IMO. > > The MAC' is a half-word aligned MAC with the top 2 bits overwritten > (i.e., it is NOT shifted right); the KID occupies those top 2 bits. > > If a user wants word alignment, pick a MAC length of N-2 bytes. > > Wouldn't that be simpler and more space efficient? We have 256 keys, and it is not enough. And is NOT simple and more complex from implemntation point of view - eats a lot of cpu cycles. --yoshfuji _______________________________________________ tcpm mailing list tcpm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm
- Re: [tcpm] TCP-AO Option Layout - Alignment and P… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] TCP-AO Option Layout - Alignment and P… YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
- Re: [tcpm] TCP-AO Option Layout - Alignment and P… Stefanos Harhalakis
- Re: [tcpm] TCP-AO Option Layout - Alignment and P… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] TCP-AO Option Layout - Alignment and P… Lars Eggert
- Re: [tcpm] TCP-AO Option Layout - Alignment and P… Ron Bonica