Re: [tcpm] WGLC comments addressed in draft-ietf-tcpm-converters-09?

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] WGLC comments addressed in draft-ietf-tcpm-converters-09?
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Med - Nice one, thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com [mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com] 
Sent: 27 September 2019 09:56
To: Eardley,PL,Philip,TUD1 R <philip.eardley@bt.com>om>; Michael.Scharf@hs-esslingen.de; tcpm@ietf.org
Cc: tcpm-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: RE: WGLC comments addressed in draft-ietf-tcpm-converters-09?

Hi Phil, 

We submitted -11 with this NEW text to address your comment: 

   The use of a Transport Converter means that there is no end-to-end
   transport connection between the client and server.  This could
   potentially create problems in some scenarios such as those discussed
   in Section 4 of [RFC3135].  Some of these problems may not be
   applicable, for example, a Transport Converter can inform a client by
   means of Network Failure (65) or Destination Unreachable (97) error
   messages (Section 4.2.8) that it encounters a failure problem; the
   client can react accordingly.  An endpoint, or its network
   administrator, can assess the benefit provided by the Transport
   Converter service versus the risk.  This is one reason why the
   Transport Converter functionality has to be explicitly requested by
   an endpoint.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : tcpm [mailto:tcpm-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de 
> mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Envoyé : jeudi 19 septembre 2019 08:20 À 
> : philip.eardley@bt.com; Michael.Scharf@hs-esslingen.de; tcpm@ietf.org 
> Cc : tcpm-chairs@ietf.org Objet : Re: [tcpm] WGLC comments addressed 
> in draft-ietf-tcpm-converters- 09?
> 
> Hi Phil,
> 
> Will add these notes. Thanks.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : philip.eardley@bt.com [mailto:philip.eardley@bt.com] Envoyé : 
> > mercredi 18 septembre 2019 18:12 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN; 
> > Michael.Scharf@hs-esslingen.de; tcpm@ietf.org Cc : 
> > tcpm-chairs@ietf.org Objet : RE: WGLC comments addressed in 
> > draft-ietf-tcpm-converters-09?
> >
> > A specific point
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >
> > > Note that the use of a Transport Converter means that there is no
> > > end-to- end transport connection between the Client and Server.
> >
> > [Med] Will add this.
> >
> >  This could
> > > potentially create problems in some scenarios, for example a 
> > > failure mode of the Converter where data was correctly received by 
> > > the converter from the client, but then it failed to forward the 
> > > data on
> to
> > the server.
> >
> > >[Med] This is not an issue for the Converter because it can inform 
> > >the
> > client by means of Network Failure (65) or Destination Unreachable (97).
> > The Client can react to this error. This is not possible with PEPs.
> >
> > [phil] It would be good to point this out.
> > But note this doesn't work if the Converter can't send these msgs. 
> > The point is that the potential failure modes are slightly different 
> > for the Converter case vs the e2e transport connection.
> >
> >
> 
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