Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-tcpm-urgent-data-00
Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Sat, 08 November 2008 01:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-tcpm-urgent-data-00
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Fernando Gont wrote: ... >> Simply >> describing it as "what has been deployed" is insufficient justification >> to call this anything other than a bug without further rationale. > > And... what would that change? Okay, I can answer this one for you: More > and more people would look somewhere else to find out how the protocols > work in practice. > > P.S.: What was it called? "rough consensus and.... "? It's not "running code." either. We are not here to write documents that describe only what has been implemented. We need to decide what the target is. If you want merely to document "what is", that's a fine description for a man page, but it doesn't provide utility in a standards body. Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkU78kACgkQE5f5cImnZrtL0wCfQUr5/WF5SzPyniyI39UdjV6i 7YgAoNQUPOZ/u4XseNRI3yTQsctZtiTk =vbff -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ tcpm mailing list tcpm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… David Borman
- [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-go… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Andrew Yourtchenko
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… David Borman
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Stefanos Harhalakis
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Andrew Yourtchenko
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification fordraft… Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification fordraft… Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-RCN0)[VZ]
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification fordraft… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification fordraft… Andrew Yourtchenko
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Joe Touch