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Subject: [tcpPrague] Fwd: L4S - Low Latency Low Loss Scalable throughput at
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Subject: 	L4S - Low Latency Low Loss Scalable throughput at IETF-105 
Montreal hackathon
Date: 	Tue, 16 Jul 2019 14:07:53 +0000
From: 	De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) 
<koen.de_schepper@nokia-bell-labs.com>
To: 	hackathon@ietf.org <hackathon@ietf.org>
CC: 	Bob Briscoe <research@bobbriscoe.net>, Tilmans, Olivier (Nokia - 
BE/Antwerp) <olivier.tilmans@nokia-bell-labs.com>



Hi all,

We'll be working again on L4S topics during the IETF-105 hackaton.

This time we also target interop testing and application testing:

If you have a client and server application that you want to 
improve/test when using L4S, you can try it out on our testbed.

If you have an implementation of a DualQ, or Prague compliant congestion 
control, we can test different interop scenarios.

Details and links to resources/supporting drafts are available at 
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/105hackathon#L4S  and copied below.

See you in Montreal.

Koen.

L4S - Low Latency Low Loss Scalable throughput

* Champion(s)

   * Bob Briscoe (Independent) ietf at bobbriscoe dot net

   * Koen De Schepper (Nokia Bell Labs) koen.de_schepper at 
nokia-bell-labs dot com

* Project(s)

   * DualQ Coupled AQM: Compare, contrast & walk through implementations

   * TCP Prague: Fall-back to TCP-Friendly on detection of classic ECN 
bottleneck

   * L4S interop testing: How does your DualQ or Prague TCP/QUIC/... 
implementation work compared to others?

   * L4S Application testing: How is your application performing when 
using L4S/Prague? Does it benefit from lower queuing delay? How 
noticeable is the difference? Is it L4S ready, how to improve?

* Resources: L4S Landing page with links to repos, documentation, etc: 
​https://riteproject.eu/dctth/#code


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        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">We'll be working again on L4S topics during the IETF-105 hackaton.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">This time we also target interop testing and application testing:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">If you have a client and server application that you want to improve/test when using L4S, you can try it out on our testbed.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">If you have an implementation of a DualQ, or Prague compliant congestion control, we can test different interop scenarios.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">Details and links to resources/supporting drafts are available at </span><a href="https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/105hackathon#L4S" moz-do-not-send="true">https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/105hackathon#L4S</a> <span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">and copied below.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">See you in Montreal.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">Koen.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">L4S - Low Latency Low Loss Scalable throughput<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">* Champion(s)<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">  * Bob Briscoe (Independent) ietf at bobbriscoe dot net<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">  * Koen De Schepper (Nokia Bell Labs) koen.de_schepper at nokia-bell-labs dot com<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">* Project(s)<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">  * DualQ Coupled AQM: Compare, contrast &amp; walk through implementations<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">  * TCP Prague: Fall-back to TCP-Friendly on detection of classic ECN bottleneck<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">  * L4S interop testing: How does your DualQ or Prague TCP/QUIC/... implementation work compared to others?<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">   * L4S Application testing: How is your application performing when using L4S/Prague? Does it benefit from lower queuing delay? How noticeable is the difference? Is it L4S ready, how to improve?<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529">* Resources: L4S Landing page with links to repos, documentation, etc: ​<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://riteproject.eu/dctth/#code">https://riteproject.eu/dctth/#code</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#212529"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
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