UDP versus SCPS-TP, TCP etc.
Keith Hogie <hogie@ipinspace.gsfc.nasa.gov> Wed, 26 June 2002 15:36 UTC
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:36:03 -0400
From: Keith Hogie <hogie@ipinspace.gsfc.nasa.gov>
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Subject: UDP versus SCPS-TP, TCP etc.
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All, I have been following the discussion on Satellites running IP and it seems to have gone off heavily in the TCP direction. I realize this is the TCPSAT group but the question seemed to be broader than just TCP. What we see for missions using IP is a very heavy use of UDP and not TCP. TCP will always have limitations that we feel are best avoided by using UDP. This allows us to do things like data transfers over one-way links which does not work with TCP. I have seen people attempting to fix TCP for all sorts of special cases for years and still don't see much convergence. For an example of other UDP use see the following: http://www.esa.int/export/esaCP/ESALS5OED2D_index_0.html http://www.gcs-salzburg.at/ http://www.gcs-salzburg.at/products/p_odg.html http://www.simple.at/ http://www.datacast.at/technology.html We are looking at the MDP/NORM UDP-based file transfer protocol and plan on using it to transfer files from the Space Shuttle payload bay on STS-107 (scheduled to launch on July 19th but may be slipping right now). The bottom line is we want to use standard IP/UDP/TCP protocols that are supported in every operating system available. Using a modified TCP requires more software support that creates more problems when you are building and deploying operational control centers and level-zero processing systems. We really prefer to use standard protocols at layer 4 and below and do any space specific tweaks in the application layer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Keith Hogie e-mail: Keith.Hogie@gsfc.nasa.gov Computer Sciences Corp. office: 301-794-2999 fax: 301-794-9480 7700 Hubble Dr. Lanham-Seabrook, MD 20706 USA 301-286-3203 @ NASA/Goddard ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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