Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and YANG

Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 07 March 2019 16:00 UTC

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Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 10:59:50 -0500
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Subject: Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and YANG
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Hi Jeff,
Agree on that.
Thanks,
- Xufeng

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:34 AM Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
wrote:

>  Xufeng,
>
> PCE as computational logic doesn’t change, they way the end result is
> represented and communicated could, so to be more precise - there are
> alternatives to PCEP
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>
> On Mar 7, 2019, at 7:17 AM, Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Loa,
>
> Agree that the "model driven networking" does bring a new perspective to
> TE. This is a new technology and methodology, which can be viewed as a
> competitive alternative to PCE/PCEP in a way. As Julien mentioned, PCE/PCEP
> is also new since RFC3272. Both should be covered in the BIS.
>
> Thanks,
> - Xufeng
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:54 AM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
>
>> Daniele,
>>
>> Happy that you agree with me, though I did not really make a point  ;)..
>> I only asked a simple question, in part based on 3272 itself.
>> I'm still looking for a response to the question.
>>
>> My reasoning was that RFC 3272 discusses (at some length) distributed
>> vs. centralized control plane, what I was thinking about was whether
>> model driven networking bring something new to the table from a TE
>> perspective.
>>
>> I got some responses, but nothing that helps me understand what is
>> going on.
>>
>> /Loa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2019-03-07 19:23, julien.meuric@orange.com wrote:
>> > Hi Daniele,
>> >
>> >> In hierarchical SDN all the traffic engineering is done with Restconf
>> > + YANG.
>> >
>> > Not entirely true either. Ever read RFC 6805 or 7491? ;-b
>> >
>> > Julien
>> >
>> >
>> > On 07/03/2019 11:33, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:
>> >> Well this is not entirely true.
>> >> There is plenty of YANG Models for traffic engineering. TE-topology,
>> TE-tunnel, TE-mapping...just to mention some of them.
>> >> In hierarchical SDN all the traffic engineering is done with Restconf
>> + YANG.
>> >> I agree with Loa, it would be probably good to have at least a section
>> dedicated to YANG.
>> >> BR
>> >>
>> >> Daniele
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Teas-3272bis-design-team <
>> teas-3272bis-design-team-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Aijun Wang
>> >> Sent: den 7 mars 2019 09:42
>> >>
>> >> Yang is not closely related to the TE solution. Should we pay more
>> attention to other emerged TE solutions for various environments?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards.
>> >>
>> >> Aijun Wang
>> >> Network R&D and Operation Support Department China Telecom Corporation
>> Limited Beijing Research Institute,Beijing, China.
>> >>
>> >> -----邮件原件-----
>> >> 发件人: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]
>> >> 发送时间: 2019年3月7日 15:45
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> When 3272 was published, YANG modelling ws not over the horizon, is
>> there anything we need to say in 3272bis about YANG?
>> >>
>> >> /Loa
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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