Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and YANG

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From: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
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That's why i said "there is plenty" and not "everyone" 😊

Jokes apart, even if it is 10% it's worth covering it IMO.

Cheers

Daniele  

-----Original Message-----
From: Teas-3272bis-design-team <teas-3272bis-design-team-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of julien.meuric@orange.com
Sent: den 7 mars 2019 12:24
To: teas-3272bis-design-team@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and YANG

Hi Daniele,

> In hierarchical SDN all the traffic engineering is done with Restconf
+ YANG.

Not entirely true either. Ever read RFC 6805 or 7491? ;-b

Julien


On 07/03/2019 11:33, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:
> Well this is not entirely true.
> There is plenty of YANG Models for traffic engineering. TE-topology, TE-tunnel, TE-mapping...just to mention some of them.
> In hierarchical SDN all the traffic engineering is done with Restconf + YANG.
> I agree with Loa, it would be probably good to have at least a section dedicated to YANG.
> BR
>
> Daniele
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Teas-3272bis-design-team 
> <teas-3272bis-design-team-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Aijun Wang
> Sent: den 7 mars 2019 09:42
>
> Yang is not closely related to the TE solution. Should we pay more attention to other emerged TE solutions for various environments?
>
>
> Best Regards.
>
> Aijun Wang
> Network R&D and Operation Support Department China Telecom Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute,Beijing, China.
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]
> 发送时间: 2019年3月7日 15:45
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>
> All,
>
> When 3272 was published, YANG modelling ws not over the horizon, is there anything we need to say in 3272bis about YANG?
>
> /Loa
>


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