Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and YANG
Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 07 March 2019 15:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and YANG
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Xufeng, PCE as computational logic doesn’t change, they way the end result is represented and communicated could, so to be more precise - there are alternatives to PCEP Cheers, Jeff > On Mar 7, 2019, at 7:17 AM, Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Loa, > > Agree that the "model driven networking" does bring a new perspective to TE. This is a new technology and methodology, which can be viewed as a competitive alternative to PCE/PCEP in a way. As Julien mentioned, PCE/PCEP is also new since RFC3272. Both should be covered in the BIS. > > Thanks, > - Xufeng > >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:54 AM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote: >> Daniele, >> >> Happy that you agree with me, though I did not really make a point ;).. >> I only asked a simple question, in part based on 3272 itself. >> I'm still looking for a response to the question. >> >> My reasoning was that RFC 3272 discusses (at some length) distributed >> vs. centralized control plane, what I was thinking about was whether >> model driven networking bring something new to the table from a TE >> perspective. >> >> I got some responses, but nothing that helps me understand what is >> going on. >> >> /Loa >> >> >> >> >> On 2019-03-07 19:23, julien.meuric@orange.com wrote: >> > Hi Daniele, >> > >> >> In hierarchical SDN all the traffic engineering is done with Restconf >> > + YANG. >> > >> > Not entirely true either. Ever read RFC 6805 or 7491? ;-b >> > >> > Julien >> > >> > >> > On 07/03/2019 11:33, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: >> >> Well this is not entirely true. >> >> There is plenty of YANG Models for traffic engineering. TE-topology, TE-tunnel, TE-mapping...just to mention some of them. >> >> In hierarchical SDN all the traffic engineering is done with Restconf + YANG. >> >> I agree with Loa, it would be probably good to have at least a section dedicated to YANG. >> >> BR >> >> >> >> Daniele >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Teas-3272bis-design-team <teas-3272bis-design-team-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Aijun Wang >> >> Sent: den 7 mars 2019 09:42 >> >> >> >> Yang is not closely related to the TE solution. Should we pay more attention to other emerged TE solutions for various environments? >> >> >> >> >> >> Best Regards. >> >> >> >> Aijun Wang >> >> Network R&D and Operation Support Department China Telecom Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute,Beijing, China. >> >> >> >> -----邮件原件----- >> >> 发件人: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu] >> >> 发送时间: 2019年3月7日 15:45 >> >> >> >> >> >> All, >> >> >> >> When 3272 was published, YANG modelling ws not over the horizon, is there anything we need to say in 3272bis about YANG? >> >> >> >> /Loa >> >> >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ >> > >> > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc >> > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler >> > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, >> > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. >> > >> > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; >> > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. >> > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. >> > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. >> > Thank you. >> > >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu >> Senior MPLS Expert >> Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >> >> -- >> Teas-3272bis-design-team mailing list >> Teas-3272bis-design-team@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas-3272bis-design-team > -- > Teas-3272bis-design-team mailing list > Teas-3272bis-design-team@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas-3272bis-design-team
- [teas-3272bis-design-team] 3272biss and YANG Loa Andersson
- [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and YANG Aijun Wang
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… julien.meuric
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Loa Andersson
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Loa Andersson
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Loa Andersson
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 3272biss and YANG Martin.Horneffer
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 3272biss and YANG Acee Lindem (acee)