Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and YANG
Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Fri, 08 March 2019 03:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and YANG
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Xufeng, On 2019-03-07 23:17, Xufeng Liu wrote: > Hi Loa, > > Agree that the "model driven networking" does bring a new perspective to > TE. OK - great, now we just need to figure out what it is and what effect it will have on 3272bis :) /Loa This is a new technology and methodology, which can be viewed as a > competitive alternative to PCE/PCEP in a way. As Julien mentioned, > PCE/PCEP is also new since RFC3272. Both should be covered in the BIS. > > Thanks, > - Xufeng > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:54 AM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu > <mailto:loa@pi.nu>> wrote: > > Daniele, > > Happy that you agree with me, though I did not really make a point ;). > I only asked a simple question, in part based on 3272 itself. > I'm still looking for a response to the question. > > My reasoning was that RFC 3272 discusses (at some length) distributed > vs. centralized control plane, what I was thinking about was whether > model driven networking bring something new to the table from a TE > perspective. > > I got some responses, but nothing that helps me understand what is > going on. > > /Loa > > > > > On 2019-03-07 19:23, julien.meuric@orange.com > <mailto:julien.meuric@orange.com> wrote: > > Hi Daniele, > > > >> In hierarchical SDN all the traffic engineering is done with > Restconf > > + YANG. > > > > Not entirely true either. Ever read RFC 6805 or 7491? ;-b > > > > Julien > > > > > > On 07/03/2019 11:33, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: > >> Well this is not entirely true. > >> There is plenty of YANG Models for traffic engineering. > TE-topology, TE-tunnel, TE-mapping...just to mention some of them. > >> In hierarchical SDN all the traffic engineering is done with > Restconf + YANG. > >> I agree with Loa, it would be probably good to have at least a > section dedicated to YANG. > >> BR > >> > >> Daniele > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Teas-3272bis-design-team > <teas-3272bis-design-team-bounces@ietf.org > <mailto:teas-3272bis-design-team-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of > Aijun Wang > >> Sent: den 7 mars 2019 09:42 > >> > >> Yang is not closely related to the TE solution. Should we pay > more attention to other emerged TE solutions for various environments? > >> > >> > >> Best Regards. > >> > >> Aijun Wang > >> Network R&D and Operation Support Department China Telecom > Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute,Beijing, China. > >> > >> -----邮件原件----- > >> 发件人: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu <mailto:loa@pi.nu>] > >> 发送时间: 2019年3月7日 15:45 > >> > >> > >> All, > >> > >> When 3272 was published, YANG modelling ws not over the horizon, > is there anything we need to say in 3272bis about YANG? > >> > >> /Loa > >> > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des > informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous > avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les > messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, > deforme ou falsifie. Merci. > > > > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or > privileged information that may be protected by law; > > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > > If you have received this email in error, please notify the > sender and delete this message and its attachments. > > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that > have been modified, changed or falsified. > > Thank you. > > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu <mailto:loa@pi.nu> > Senior MPLS Expert > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > -- > Teas-3272bis-design-team mailing list > Teas-3272bis-design-team@ietf.org > <mailto:Teas-3272bis-design-team@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas-3272bis-design-team > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64
- [teas-3272bis-design-team] 3272biss and YANG Loa Andersson
- [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and YANG Aijun Wang
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… julien.meuric
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Loa Andersson
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Loa Andersson
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 答复: 3272biss and Y… Loa Andersson
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 3272biss and YANG Martin.Horneffer
- Re: [teas-3272bis-design-team] 3272biss and YANG Acee Lindem (acee)