Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed text addition to the controller section
Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 12 March 2020 20:18 UTC
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From: Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 16:17:58 -0400
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Hi Eric, On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:51 AM Eric Gray <eric.gray@ericsson.com> wrote: > Xufeng, > > > > So, what we are trying to say is that some information (we > say “details”) could be provided between the Transport Slice consumer and > the TSC via an NBI. > > > > That statement is intended as a high-level summary and – > because we are not defining the “details” of the NBI in this document – the > actual details are (of course) out of scope (this is pretty much a > tautology; it would be curiously weird, actually, to describe the details > and then say that describing the details is out of scope). > Right. That is my feeling. Replacing one of these "details" would be better. > > > Do you have any suggestion for how we could make this > clearer at the intended level, and without providing information we do not > intend to provide? > Maybe using "the applied configuration, selected policies, and operational state", or something like that. Like mentioned, anything other than "details" would sound better. > > > If you do have a proposal that folks can get behind, I would > be happy to put it in for the “-01” version… > > > > -- > > Eric > > > > *From:* Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 9:36 AM > *To:* Eric Gray <eric.gray@ericsson.com> > *Cc:* teas-ns-dt@ietf.org; Wubo (lana) <lana.wubo@huawei.com>om>; Dongjie > (Jimmy) <jie.dong@huawei.com>om>; Rokui, Reza (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) < > reza.rokui@nokia.com>gt;; Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@ericsson.com>om>; John E Drake > <jdrake@juniper.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed text > addition to the controller section > *Importance:* High > > > > Hi Eric and All, > > > > This section looks good to me. I have one minor comment in-line below. > > Thanks, > > - Xufeng > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:23 AM Eric Gray <eric.gray= > 40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > Based on Reza’s Pull #8 and the extensive discussion that followed, I plan > to add the following text to the framework document: > > > > Transport Slice Controller (TSC) > > The transport slice controller takes abstract requests for > transport slices and implements them using a suitable underlying > technology. A transport slice controller is the key building > block for control and management of the transport slice. It > provides the creation/modification/deletion, monitoring and > optimization of transport Slices in a multi-domain, a > multi-technology and multi-vendor environment. > > In discussion in this document, a southbound interface (SBI) > is used as a logical construct (that may or may not exist in > practice) representing mechanisms used by the TSC in > communicating with the underlying (abstract) network. > > A TSC northbound interface is needed for communicating > details of a transport slice, > > The word "details" here is vague to me. To what extent of the "details" > the NBI needs to communicate? what kind of details? The next sentence says > "The details for this NBI are not in scope", making the term here more > confusing. May I suggest some rewording? Maybe: > > "the applied configuration, selected policies, and operational state"? > > > > as well as providing information > to a slice requester/consumer about transport slice status > and performance. The details for this NBI are not in scope > for this document. > > The controller provides the following functions: > > - Provides a technology-agnostic NBI for creation/modification/ > deletion of the transport slices. The API exposed by this NBI > communicates the endpoints of the transport slice, transport > slice SLO parameters (and possibly monitoring thresholds), > applicable input selection (filtering) and various policies, and > provides a way to monitor the slice. > - Determines an abstract topology connecting the endpoints of > the transport slice that meets criteria specified via the NBI.The > > TSC also retains information about the mapping of this abstract > > topology to underlying components of the transport slice as > > necessary to monitor transport slice status and performance. > > - Provides "Mapping Functions" for the realization of transport slices. > In other words, it will use the mapping functions which: > - map technology-agnostic NBI request to technology-specific SBIs. > - map filtering/selection information as necessary to entities in the > underlay network. > - Via an SBI, the controller collects Telemetry data (e.g. OAM results, > Statistics, States etc.) for all elements in the abstract topology used > to realize the transport slice. > - Using the Telemetry data from the underlying realization of a > transport slice (i.e. services/paths/tunnels), evaluates the > current performance against transport slice SLO parameters and > exposes them to the transport slice consumer via the NBI. The > TSC NBI may also include a capability to provide notification in > case the transport slice performance reaches threshold values > defined by the transport slice consumer. > > > > > > -- > Teas-ns-dt mailing list > Teas-ns-dt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas-ns-dt > >
- [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs proposed t… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… Rokui, Reza (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… Rokui, Reza (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezas proposed… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… Wubo (lana)
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Rezaâs propos… Rokui, Reza (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Wubo (lana)
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Wubo (lana)
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Wubo (lana)
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Wubo (lana)
- [Teas-ns-dt] 答复: Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Wubo (lana)
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Wubo (lana)
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Pull-request #8: Reza’s proposed… Eric Gray