Re: [Teas-ns-dt] issue discussion: NF resource

Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Thu, 28 May 2020 22:15 UTC

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Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 15:15:09 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Teas-ns-dt] issue discussion: NF resource
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Hi Kiran,
I think that an NF can be realized as a physical device or a VM. Would you
agree? If that is the case, then, in my opinion, we cannot consider only
the VNF case but add the PNF case as well.
Also, I don't see the real benefit to have NF, in all their variety now and
more in the future, as part of a TS. I think that NF is either part of the
TS implementation and thus is selected by an operator based on the SLO. Or
part of a service that uses the TS. In the model I have in mind, a client
of the TS does not specify which NFs should compose the TS but only what is
the functional behavior and performance provided by the TS.

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:06 PM Kiran Makhijani <kiranm@futurewei.com>
wrote:

> Hi All,
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> To kick off discussion on this topic.
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> During earlier discussions several of us asked for network functions
> should be part of the slices. For me the value of doing this is to be able
> to express different nuances of a service through single set of objectives.
> Then in NBI and implementation there is one controller to monitor the
> performance.
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> At the entry and exit of transport slices, these NF can be supplied to
> enforce access control, policies, etc. on transport slice traffic. It is
> also safe to assume that they will be virtual.
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> The objective is to apply those function on  traffic flows.
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> 2 examples are  (1) use of firewall at entry point with the rules
> described by the user of transport slice. (2) Caching or DPI function on
> exit endpoints.
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> Regards
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> Kiran
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