Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Network Slicing and Enhanced VPN Drafts
Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 13 January 2020 13:20 UTC
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 08:20:37 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Network Slicing and Enhanced VPN Drafts
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While I feel that the text VPN+ document is too technology specific, I'd
like to propose the following annotations:
# Introduction
.. Refer to [definitions] ...
... Relation to existing IETF technologies ...
# Requirements
...
... clarify scoping is only networking ...
... add some discussion of scalability ...
... [Xufeng] Transport Slice As a Service
- Slice is configurable
- Configurations can be negotiated
... [Xufeng] Elasticity
... [Xufeng] Survivability
... [Xufeng] Manageability
# Framework
... [Xufeng] Abstraction
... [Xufeng] Network layers (Layer hierarchy)
... [Xufeng] Overlay and underlay (Abstraction hierarchy)
... [Xufeng] Network domains
... [Xufeng] Control mechanisms and interfaces
... [Xufeng] Measurement, monitoring, and recovery systems
... diagram ...
## Applications
... the transport slice system is used by an application. in most likely,
that application is just another level slice orchestrator, e.g., the
end-to-end slice orchestrator. but in theory it could also be an actual
application that wants to manage some specific connectivity through the
transport slice system. ...
## Expressing connectivity intents
... northbound interface ...
... data models ...
... SLOs as intents ...
... (most of this comes from the definitions draft) ...
## Mapping
... the requirements get mapped by a piece of software, the controller, to
concrete technologies and the connectivity is set up ...
## Controller
...
## Underlying technology
... such as MPLS or VPNs or even physical cables ...
# Considerations
## Monitoring
... we need to instrument the slice realisation to know how it is doing +
update the slice as situation changes + dynamic reconfig...
## How to deal with hierarchy
...
## Security model
... accidental or malicous interaction between slices raises new security
concerns ...
Thanks,
- Xufeng
On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:52 PM John E Drake <jdrake=
40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> Dear Network Slicing Design Team, Stewart, and Adrian,
>
> The current definition of a network slice is, I think, an underlay network
> MP2MP connection between a set of endpoints with an SLO which is met
> between any pair of endpoints. What I think we can then say is that a
> variety of services are provided to those endpoints. I.e., a network slice
> is strictly an underlay network construct over which a variety of overlay
> network services are offered to individual tenants. Currently, the IETF
> defines overlay network services such as EVPN, L3VPN, and SFC (either
> separately or in combination), but this underlay/overlay separation would
> allow us to easily incorporate other services including those that are 5G
> specific.
>
> So, what we might want to consider is moving the material which is
> underlay network specific from the VPN+ draft to the network slicing
> framework draft and recasting the VPN+ draft as defining how VPN overlay
> services use network slices.
>
> Annotations are preceded w/ .....JD
>
> Introduction
>
> ... Refer to [definitions] ...
>
> .... Relation to existing IETF technologies ...
>
> ......JD
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-1
>
> Requirements
>
> ....
>
> .... clarify scoping is only networking ...
>
> .... add some discussion of scalability ...
>
> ......JD
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-2,
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-5
>
> Framework
>
> ......JD
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-3
>
> .... diagram ...
> Applications
>
> .... the transport slice system is used by an application. in most likely,
> that application is just another level slice orchestrator, e.g., the
> end-to-end slice orchestrator. but in theory it could also be an actual
> application that wants to manage some specific connectivity through the
> transport slice system. ...
> Expressing connectivity intents
>
> ......JD I would replace the term 'applications' w/ 'overlay services'
>
> .... northbound interface ...
>
> .... data models ...
>
> .... SLOs as intents ...
>
> .... (most of this comes from the definitions draft) ...
> Mapping
>
> .... the requirements get mapped by a piece of software, the controller,
> to concrete technologies and the connectivity is set up ...
> Controller
>
> ....
> Underlying technology
>
> .... such as MPLS or VPNs or even physical cables ...
>
> ......JD
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-4
>
> Considerations
> Monitoring
>
> .... we need to instrument the slice realisation to know how it is doing +
> update the slice as situation changes + dynamic reconfig...
> How to deal with hierarchy
>
> ......JD
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-6,
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-7,
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-8
>
> ....
> Security model
>
> .... accidental or malicous interaction between slices raises new security
> concerns ...
>
> ......JD
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-10
>
>
> Yours Irrespectively,
>
> John
>
>
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>
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- [Teas-ns-dt] Network Slicing and Enhanced VPN Dra… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Network Slicing and Enhanced VPN… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [Teas-ns-dt] Network Slicing and Enhanced VPN… Rokui, Reza (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)