Re: [Teas] [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis

"Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com> Thu, 04 March 2021 06:44 UTC

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From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>
To: Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Teas] [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis
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Dhruv –

<snip>
This gives an impression (to me) that *all* changes made are listed here. Since that is not what is happening here, I suggested calling it - Important or Major or Motivation to update RFC 5316, whatever you like....
<end snip>

Got it.
I will make that clear in the next revision.

Thanx.

   Les

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Subject: Re: [Lsr] [Teas] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis

Hi Les,
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 1:17 AM Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com<mailto:ginsberg@cisco.com>> wrote:

Dhruv -



Thanx for reviewing/supporting the draft.

Please see inline.



> -----Original Message-----

> From: Lsr <lsr-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:lsr-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody

> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 2:09 AM

> To: Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org<mailto:chopps@chopps.org>>

> Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:teas-chairs@ietf.org>>; teas-ads@ietf.org<mailto:teas-ads@ietf.org>; TEAS WG

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> Subject: Re: [Lsr] [Teas] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis

>

> Hi,

>

> I went through the diff with RFC5316. The changes look good. Some

> minor comments -

>

> (1) Is it wise to use normative keywords MUST and SHOULD in the

> appendix? The text is from section 3.1 but can it be reworded in the

> appendix? Also wondering if other changes (IANA, nits) could be listed

> or we could call it "major change" :)



[Les:] I personally do not have an issue using the normative keywords in the Appendix. Not doing so I think might trigger someone to ask if there is some inconsistency between the Appendix text and the text in the body of the draft. 😊

If you know of some prohibition against using such keywords in an Appendix please provide the reference.


[Dhruv]: To me, the usefulness of this appendix is to find out what has changed in this bis. Very useful for any reviewer or implementor. The other option is to do rfcdiff :(

So in this context, I provided the above comments suggesting rewording the text as a list of changes with rewording. Adding a reference to the relevant section could be useful too. Feel free to ignore, if you think this adds no value!

The IANA change is a consequence of the introduction pf new  IPv6 Local ASBR identifier sub-TLV. I do not see the need to mention it in the Appendix.



I do not understand your comment about "major change". Could you explain?
[Dhruv]: The current text says -

Appendix A.  Changes to RFC 5316

   This document makes the following changes to RFC 5316.


This gives an impression (to me) that *all* changes made are listed here. Since that is not what is happening here, I suggested calling it - Important or Major or Motivation to update RFC 5316, whatever you like....




>

> (2) IPv6 Local ASBR ID and IPv6 Router ID is used interchangeably i.e.

> table in IANA section 6.2 does not use the same name as the table in

> section 3.1

>



[Les:] The use of " IPv6 Router ID" in Section 3.1 is inconsistent. I will fix that.

Thanx for pointing that out.



Thanks!
Dhruv


   Les



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