Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transport-slice-definition - TSRE

Joel Halpern Direct <jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com> Thu, 20 August 2020 23:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transport-slice-definition - TSRE
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The rule of thumb for a standard is not to specify things you do not 
need, as what you actually need will likely turn out to be different, if 
you need it at all.

As such, I do not see any jsutification for including TSRE in this draft.

Having said that, this is not a hill I will die on.  If the WG chairs 
decide it is useful and belongs then fine, so be it.

Yours,
Joel

On 8/20/2020 5:20 PM, Kiran Makhijani wrote:
> Hi Joel,
> I am ok to remove some part from Appendix only if it is included in the framework first.
> 
> But for the TSRE, I have proposed clearer and shorter text that they are not visible to the consumer of a transport slices. One of the purpose of definitions document is 'define' common terminology in the scope of transport slices, and all we are saying is that when realizing a transport slice, things TSEs will map to are called TSREs.
> I am not able to see the drawback of saying so.
> 
> Thanks
> Kiran
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joel Halpern Direct <jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 1:19 PM
>> To: Kiran Makhijani <kiranm@futurewei.com>om>; Vishnu Pavan Beeram
>> <vishnupavan@gmail.com>om>; TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transport-slice-definition
>>
>> No, your replies did not in any way address my concerns.
>>
>> I would suggest removing the references to TSRE and more importantly
>> removing appendix A.1, or at least the last part of the appendix.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Joel
>>
>> On 8/20/2020 2:54 PM, Kiran Makhijani wrote:
>>> Hi Joel,
>>> After having replied to your comments, we have not heard further if they
>> were convincing.
>>> Please let us know.
>>> Thanks
>>> Kiran
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:04 AM
>>>> To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>om>; TEAS WG
>>>> <teas@ietf.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption -
>>>> draft-nsdt-teas-transport-slice-definition
>>>>
>>>> Without repairs to the issues I have raised on the email list, I do
>>>> not think this document should be adopted as a WG document.
>>>> We are close, but not quite there.
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>> Joel
>>>>
>>>> On 8/19/2020 11:50 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is start of a *three* week poll on making
>>>>> draft-nsdt-teas-transport-slice-definition-03 a TEAS working group
>>>> document.
>>>>> Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not
>>>>> support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the
>>>>> document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
>>>>> like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.
>>>>>
>>>>> The poll ends September 9th (extra week to account for vacation season).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Pavan and Lou
>>>>>
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