Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transport-slice-definition - TSRE
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Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transport-slice-definition - TSRE
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The rule of thumb for a standard is not to specify things you do not need, as what you actually need will likely turn out to be different, if you need it at all. As such, I do not see any jsutification for including TSRE in this draft. Having said that, this is not a hill I will die on. If the WG chairs decide it is useful and belongs then fine, so be it. Yours, Joel On 8/20/2020 5:20 PM, Kiran Makhijani wrote: > Hi Joel, > I am ok to remove some part from Appendix only if it is included in the framework first. > > But for the TSRE, I have proposed clearer and shorter text that they are not visible to the consumer of a transport slices. One of the purpose of definitions document is 'define' common terminology in the scope of transport slices, and all we are saying is that when realizing a transport slice, things TSEs will map to are called TSREs. > I am not able to see the drawback of saying so. > > Thanks > Kiran > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joel Halpern Direct <jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com> >> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 1:19 PM >> To: Kiran Makhijani <kiranm@futurewei.com>; Vishnu Pavan Beeram >> <vishnupavan@gmail.com>; TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org> >> Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transport-slice-definition >> >> No, your replies did not in any way address my concerns. >> >> I would suggest removing the references to TSRE and more importantly >> removing appendix A.1, or at least the last part of the appendix. >> >> Yours, >> Joel >> >> On 8/20/2020 2:54 PM, Kiran Makhijani wrote: >>> Hi Joel, >>> After having replied to your comments, we have not heard further if they >> were convincing. >>> Please let us know. >>> Thanks >>> Kiran >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:04 AM >>>> To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>; TEAS WG >>>> <teas@ietf.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption - >>>> draft-nsdt-teas-transport-slice-definition >>>> >>>> Without repairs to the issues I have raised on the email list, I do >>>> not think this document should be adopted as a WG document. >>>> We are close, but not quite there. >>>> >>>> Yours, >>>> Joel >>>> >>>> On 8/19/2020 11:50 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> This is start of a *three* week poll on making >>>>> draft-nsdt-teas-transport-slice-definition-03 a TEAS working group >>>> document. >>>>> Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not >>>>> support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the >>>>> document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd >>>>> like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. >>>>> >>>>> The poll ends September 9th (extra week to account for vacation season). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Pavan and Lou >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Teas mailing list >>>>> Teas@ietf.org >>>>> >>>> >> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. >>>>> >>>> >> ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fteas&data=02%7C01%7Ckiranm%40f >>>> utur >>>>> >>>> >> ewei.com%7Cf26ab959470747a36b2808d84459a351%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189 >>>> c753a1d >>>>> >>>> >> 5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637334499094612048&sdata=%2FGSlz2Q4%2B >>>> RAlZTXBv5 >>>>> XlCZ9YKaUKQ7C4IUIgdQDVJ%2Bk%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Teas mailing list >>>> Teas@ietf.org >>>> >> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww >>>> .i >> etf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fteas&data=02%7C01%7Ckiranm%40fu >>>> >> turewei.com%7Cf26ab959470747a36b2808d84459a351%7C0fee8ff2a3b2401 >>>> >> 89c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637334499094612048&sdata=%2FG >>>> >> Slz2Q4%2BRAlZTXBv5XlCZ9YKaUKQ7C4IUIgdQDVJ%2Bk%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Teas mailing list >>> Teas@ietf.org >>> >> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. >>> >> ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fteas&data=02%7C01%7Ckiranm%40f >> utur >>> >> ewei.com%7C7bb861e35ac84653b62208d8454659ac%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189 >> c753a1d >>> >> 5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C637335515772670726&sdata=MZQKraVa8fj3BL >> sLRq9T9a >>> Ypp3C%2Bu1w9c7DgIVE6kE0%3D&reserved=0 >>>
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transport-sl… Vishnu Pavan Beeram
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Kiran Makhijani
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Kiran Makhijani
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Luis M. Contreras
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… David Sinicrope
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Kiran Makhijani
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Kiran Makhijani
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Luis M. Contreras
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Luis M. Contreras
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Luis M. Contreras
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Vishnu Pavan Beeram
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… David Sinicrope
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… David Sinicrope
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Young Lee
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Uma Chunduri
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Shunsuke Homma
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Shunsuke Homma
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Shunsuke Homma
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Kiran Makhijani
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Rokui, Reza (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Eric Gray
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Kiran Makhijani
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Shunsuke Homma
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-transpor… Vishnu Pavan Beeram