[Teas] AD review: draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-13.txt

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Subject: [Teas] AD review: draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-13.txt
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Hi,

As mentioned during the teas meeting, this document is with me for review. Aijun and I have worked together to improve the readability - hopefully you find it much improved.

In reviewing, I had the same question as Loa on his RTG Dir review (thanks Loa!) - why is this document's status Experimental? Why not Informational as other architecture documents? I recall in early discussions in the working group, it was not so clear on the proposal and the impacts for the network and so the feeling it should be experimental. With the current draft, it is much more mature and there is a working group document in PCE on the extensions (it has the status of PS).

I would like to propose to change the status of this document to Informational. Please let your Chairs and myself know if any concerns on changing the status. The plan is to upload with the changed status next week and I'll kick off IETF Last Call.

Thanks!
Deborah


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Hi, All:
We have updated this draft based on the comments from Deborah, our AD.
Thanks  Deborah for her efforts. We think it can be forwarded then to the IESG view.
Thanks  in advance.

Aijun Wang
China Telecom

> On Nov 15, 2020, at 23:29, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF.
> 
>        Title           : PCE in Native IP Network
>        Authors         : Aijun Wang
>                          Boris Khasanov
>                          Quintin Zhao
>                          Huaimo Chen
>    Filename        : draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-13.txt
>    Pages           : 13
>    Date            : 2020-11-15
> 
> Abstract:
>   This document defines an architecture for providing traffic
>   engineering in a native IP network using multiple BGP sessions and a
>   Path Computation Element (PCE)-based central control mechanism.  It
>   defines the Central Control Dynamic Routing (CCDR) procedures and
>   identifies needed extensions for the Path Computation Element
>   Communication Protocol (PCEP).
> 
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