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Thank you for your efforts. I also hope that Jie can check and let us know if we missed any of his comm= ents. Cheers, Med De : Adrian Farrel Envoy=E9 : mardi 24 septembre 2024 10:22 =C0 : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET ; Vishnu Pa= van Beeram ; TEAS WG Cc : TEAS WG Chairs Objet : [Teas] Re: Responses for LS on "Realization of Network Slices for 5= G Networks Using Current IP/MPLS Technologies" Thanks to all for the hard work on this document. It is definitely getting = much better (and shorter) which is a good thing for all of us. There does seem to have been a lot of changes sine the first last call, and= even since the second one. It also looks (to me) that there are a few of J= ie's comments still unresolved. I plan to scan the doc tonight and I'll try to suggest resolutions for the = points that look to be still open. A On 24/09/2024 10:05 CEST mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote: Hi Pavan, all, FWIW, the changes are now implemented in the public version together with a= dditional follow-up comments from Jie: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dra= ft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls/11/. Cheers, Med De : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET Envoy=E9 : lundi 9 septembre 2024 15:34 =C0 : 'Vishnu Pavan Beeram' >; TEAS WG > Cc : TEAS WG Chairs > Objet : RE: [Teas] Responses for LS on "Realization of Network Slices for 5= G Networks Using Current IP/MPLS Technologies" Hi Pavan, all, Thanks for sharing your conclusions. Looks good to me. Fixed right now the ref nits: https://github.com/boucadai= r/5g-slice-realization/commit/3c11d6e6baa2f50a10a95904c8abb29753e91034. The= se nits can be queues for a next iteration when we will have more comments,= but we can release a new version if you prefer so. Thanks. Cheers, Med De : Vishnu Pavan Beeram > Envoy=E9 : lundi 9 septembre 2024 10:04 =C0 : TEAS WG > Cc : TEAS WG Chairs > Objet : [Teas] Responses for LS on "Realization of Network Slices for 5G Ne= tworks Using Current IP/MPLS Technologies" WG, We sent a liaison statement [1] in June to multiple 3GPP groups seeking fee= dback on our WG draft that discusses "Realization of Network Slices for 5G = Networks Using Current IP/MPLS Technologies" [2]. We have received replies from 3GPP-TSGSA-SA2 [3], 3GPP-TSG-SA-WG5 [4] and O= 3GPPTSGRAN3 [5]. We request the WG to review the feedback and chime in with= your thoughts/opinions. The following is our (chairs') interpretation of the feedback that was rece= ived. * 3GPP-TSGSA-SA2: * Remove Appendices B.1 and B.2 and just have a reference to TS-23.5= 01 * No endorsement of the "Hand-off" options discussed in Section 4 an= d the QoS Mapping Realization Models in Section 5 * This need not warrant any changes to Sections 4 and 5. We need = to ensure that the language used in these two sections doesn't imply any en= dorsement by 3GPP. * 3GPP-TSG-SA-WG5: * Fix the reference to 3GPP TS 28.530 * O3GPPTSGRAN3: * Inaccuracies exist in Appendix B.3. Suggest adding references to T= S-38.300 and TS-38.401 * In other words, this is a recommendation to remove Appendix B.3. Based on the above, our recommendation is to remove Appendix B (including t= he Transport Network specific sub-section) and add the suggested references= in the Introduction. The authors have published a new revision (rev 10) wi= th Appendix B removed. Please review the latest changes and let us know if = there are any comments/concerns. 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Hi Adrian,

 

Deal! Thank you for your efforts.

 

I also hope that Jie can check an= d let us know if we missed any of his comments.

 

Cheers,

Med

 

De : Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.= uk>
Envoy=E9 : mardi 24 septembre 2024 10:22
=C0 : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.= com>; Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>; TEAS WG <tea= s@ietf.org>
Cc : TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Objet : [Teas] Re: Responses for LS on "Realization of Net= work Slices for 5G Networks Using Current IP/MPLS Technologies"

 

Thanks to all for the hard work= on this document. It is definitely getting much better (and shorter) which is a good t= hing for all of us.

 

There does seem to have been a lot of changes sine t= he first last call, and even since the second one. It also looks (to me) th= at there are a few of Jie's comments still unresolved.

 

I plan to scan the doc tonight and I'll try to sugge= st resolutions for the points that look to be still open.

 

A

On 24/09/2024 10:05 CEST mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:

 

 

Hi Pavan, all,

 

FWIW, the changes are now implemented in the public version to= gether with additional follow-up comments from Jie: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls/11/.

 

Cheers,

Med

 

De : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
Envoy=E9=  : lundi 9 septembre 2024 15:34
=C0 = ;: 'Vishnu Pavan Beeram' <vishnupavan@gmail.com>; TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>
Cc = : TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Objet&nb= sp;: RE: [Teas] Responses for LS on "Realization of Ne= twork Slices for 5G Networks Using Current IP/MPLS Technologies"<= /o:p>

 

Hi Pavan, all,

 

Thanks for sharing your conclusions.

 

Looks good to me. Fixed right now the ref nits: https://github.com/boucadair/5g-slice-realization/commit/3c11d6e6baa2f50a10= a95904c8abb29753e91034. These nits can be queues for a next iteration w= hen we will have more comments, but we can release a new version if you pre= fer so. Thanks.

 

Cheers,

Med

 

De : Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Envoy=E9=  : lundi 9 septembre 2024 10:04
=C0 = ;: TEAS WG <teas@ietf.o= rg>
Cc = : TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Objet&nb= sp;: [Teas] Responses for LS on "Realization of Networ= k Slices for 5G Networks Using Current IP/MPLS Technologies"

 

WG,

 

We sent a liaison statement [1] in June to multiple 3GPP groups seekin= g feedback on our WG draft that discusses “Realization of Network Slices for 5G Networks Using Current IP/MPLS Technologies”= ; [2]. =

We have received replies from 3GPP-TSGSA-SA2 [3], 3GPP-TSG-SA-WG5 [4] and O3GPPTSGRAN3 [5]. We request the WG to review the feedback and chime i= n with your thoughts/opinions.

 

The following is our (chairs’) interpretation of the feedback th= at was received.

 

  • 3GPP-TSGSA-SA2:
    • Remove Appendices = B.1 and B.2 and just have a reference to TS-23.501
      • No endorsement of = the “Hand-off” options discussed in Section 4 and the QoS Mappi= ng Realization Models in Section 5
      • This need not warr= ant any changes to Sections 4 and 5. We need to ensure that the language us= ed in these two sections doesn’t imply any endorsement by 3GPP.
  • 3GPP-TSG-SA-WG5:
    • Fix the reference = to 3GPP TS 28.530
  • O3GPPTSGRAN3:
    • Inaccuracies exist= in Appendix B.3. Suggest adding references to TS-38.300 and TS-38.401
      • In other words, th= is is a recommendation to remove Appendix B.3.

 

Based on the above, our recommendation is to remove Appendix B (includ= ing the Transport Network specific sub-section) and add the suggested references in the Introduction. The authors have pub= lished a new revision (rev 10) with Appendix B removed. Please review the l= atest changes and let us know if there are any comments/concerns.

 

Regards,

-Pavan and Oscar 

 

[1] = https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1931/

[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-t= eas-5g-ns-ip-mpls

[3] = https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1955/

[4] = https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1956/

[5] = https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1957/

 

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