Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-nsdt-teas-ietf-network-slice-definition-00.txt

Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Thu, 22 October 2020 08:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-nsdt-teas-ietf-network-slice-definition-00.txt
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Kiran, all,

I want to thank the authors of this draft for their work and for listening.
This version of the draft is a *substantial* improvement.

Of course, I still have some issues I'd like to work through. Some of my
concerns are "just" language usage where the choice of words or phrasing
means something that I don't think the authors intend. Other concerns are
about the details. But all in all, this is going in the right direction.

I still think there is too much text in this definitions document. I think
that is a natural result of having several documents in the pipe at the same
time. There is explanation of how things work and hang together that, in my
opinion, should relocate to other documents - maybe the framework, maybe
dedicated applicability statements. For example, I can see value in a
document explaining how IETF network slices fit into the models of
"end-to-end network slices" as conceived in other SDOs.

Best,
Adrian

-----Original Message-----
From: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Kiran Makhijani
Sent: 22 October 2020 07:12
To: teas-ns-dt@ietf.org; TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>
Subject: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for
draft-nsdt-teas-ietf-network-slice-definition-00.txt

Hello Teas and teas-ns-dt,
FYI: Please find new version of  IETF network slices (previously called
transport slices) definition document. 

This is still a work in progress document but several comments and feedback
received till now have been addressed. We want to share updates so far and
look forward to further comments and discussion.

Thanks
-Authors 

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To: Kiran Makhijani <kiranm@futurewei.com>om>; Luis Contreras
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Subject: New Version Notification for
draft-nsdt-teas-ietf-network-slice-definition-00.txt


A new version of I-D, draft-nsdt-teas-ietf-network-slice-definition-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Kiran Makhijani and posted to the IETF
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Name:		draft-nsdt-teas-ietf-network-slice-definition
Revision:	00
Title:		Definition of IETF Network Slices
Document date:	2020-10-21
Group:		Individual Submission
Pages:		17
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Abstract:
   This document provides a definition of the term "IETF Network Slice"
   for use within the IETF and specifically as a reference for other
   IETF documents that describe or use aspects of network slices.

   The document also describes the characteristics of an IETF network
   slice, related terms and their meanings, and explains how IETF
   network slices can be used in combination with end-to-end network
   slices or independent of them.

 



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