Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices
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From: "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)" <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>
To: "Rokui, Reza (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)" <reza.rokui@nokia.com>, "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices
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Hi Adrian, +1 Thanks Sergio > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rokui, Reza (Nokia - > CA/Ottawa) > Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 1:13 PM > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk > Cc: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; teas@ietf.org; Loa Andersson > <loa@pi.nu> > Subject: Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices > > Hi Adrian, > > I am fine with the definition of “Customer” provided below. > > Reza > > > On May 5, 2021, at 7:06 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote: > > > > We currently have (in section 5.1, which may be a bit late in the > > document) > > > > Customer: A customer is the requester of an IETF Network Slice. > > Customers may request monitoring of SLOs. A customer may manage > > the IETF Network Slice service directly by interfacing with the > > IETF NSC or indirectly through an orchestrator. > > > > We could add "A customer may be an entity such as an enterprise > > network or a network operator, an individual working at such an > > entity, a private individual contracting for a service, or an > > application or software component." > > > > Cheers, > > Adrian > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com > <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> > > Sent: 05 May 2021 11:58 > > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Loa Andersson' <loa@pi.nu>; teas@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: [Teas] Moving forward with > > draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices > > > > Hi all, > > > >> Anyone else got anything to say on the topic? > > > > I would simply use "customer" and make sure the definition is generic > > enough to denote a role/entity. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > >> -----Message d'origine----- > >> De : Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Adrian Farrel > >> Envoyé : mercredi 5 mai 2021 11:59 À : 'Loa Andersson' <loa@pi.nu>; > >> teas@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Teas] Moving forward with > >> draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network- slices > >> > >> Hi Loa, > >> > >>> On customer vs. consumer Adrian says: > >>> > >>>> c. "Consumer" vs "customer". I have made this consistent (we > >> only need to > >>>> use one term). I selected "Customer" because that seemed > >> best, but I > >>>> know some people prefer "consumer". Please discuss if you > >> are not > >>>> happy. > >>> > >>> If the choice is between customer vs. consumer, I prefer customer. > >> > >> OK. So I made an improvement, but... > >> > >>> I don't know if it is too late to bring this up. > >> > >> It's never too late to bring things up. > >> > >>> But I really don't like either, normal language has a strong > >>> indication that that that a customer is a person (a person that > >> walks > >>> inte to your > >>> shop) and consumer is also a person /that eats what I bought at > >> your shop). > >> > >> I think you forget about wholesale. What do you call the school that > >> buys food at the shop to provide to the children? Do you call the > >> school the customer, or do you refer to the cook who buys the food as > >> the customer? The contract is with the school, negotiated by the > >> cook, signed by the bursar. > >> > >>> IETF specifies "systems", including what goes into SW and HW, but > >> we > >>> don't specify normative rules for human behavior. > >>> > >>> I don't know if we can talk about Customer System? > >> > >> I'm afraid of this getting heavy for the reader. There are 73 > >> instances of "customer" in the document, and "customer system" may > >> become tiresome to read. > >> > >> Anyone else got anything to say on the topic? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Adrian > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Teas mailing list > >> Teas@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > ______ > > ______ _____________________________________________ > > > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, > > exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message > > par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi > > que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles > > d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete > > altere, deforme ou falsifie. 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- [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ietf-n… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Rokui, Reza (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Shunsuke Homma
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… peng.shaofu
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Oscar González de Dios
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… niu.xiaobing
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Shunsuke Homma
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Tarek Saad
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Ogaki, Kenichi
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Shunsuke Homma
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel