Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices
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From: "Rokui, Reza (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)" <reza.rokui@nokia.com>
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Subject: Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices
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Hi Adrian, I am fine with the definition of “Customer” provided below. Reza > On May 5, 2021, at 7:06 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote: > > We currently have (in section 5.1, which may be a bit late in the document) > > Customer: A customer is the requester of an IETF Network Slice. > Customers may request monitoring of SLOs. A customer may manage > the IETF Network Slice service directly by interfacing with the > IETF NSC or indirectly through an orchestrator. > > We could add "A customer may be an entity such as an enterprise network or a > network operator, an individual working at such an entity, a private > individual contracting for a service, or an application or software > component." > > Cheers, > Adrian > > -----Original Message----- > From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> > Sent: 05 May 2021 11:58 > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Loa Andersson' <loa@pi.nu>; teas@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices > > Hi all, > >> Anyone else got anything to say on the topic? > > I would simply use "customer" and make sure the definition is generic enough > to denote a role/entity. > > Thanks. > > Cheers, > Med > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Adrian Farrel >> Envoyé : mercredi 5 mai 2021 11:59 >> À : 'Loa Andersson' <loa@pi.nu>; teas@ietf.org >> Objet : Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network- >> slices >> >> Hi Loa, >> >>> On customer vs. consumer Adrian says: >>> >>>> c. "Consumer" vs "customer". I have made this consistent (we >> only need to >>>> use one term). I selected "Customer" because that seemed >> best, but I >>>> know some people prefer "consumer". Please discuss if you >> are not >>>> happy. >>> >>> If the choice is between customer vs. consumer, I prefer customer. >> >> OK. So I made an improvement, but... >> >>> I don't know if it is too late to bring this up. >> >> It's never too late to bring things up. >> >>> But I really don't like either, normal language has a strong >>> indication that that that a customer is a person (a person that >> walks >>> inte to your >>> shop) and consumer is also a person /that eats what I bought at >> your shop). >> >> I think you forget about wholesale. What do you call the school that >> buys food at the shop to provide to the children? Do you call the >> school the customer, or do you refer to the cook who buys the food as >> the customer? The contract is with the school, negotiated by the >> cook, signed by the bursar. >> >>> IETF specifies "systems", including what goes into SW and HW, but >> we >>> don't specify normative rules for human behavior. >>> >>> I don't know if we can talk about Customer System? >> >> I'm afraid of this getting heavy for the reader. There are 73 >> instances of "customer" in the document, and "customer system" may >> become tiresome to read. >> >> Anyone else got anything to say on the topic? >> >> Cheers, >> Adrian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu > ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages > electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou > falsifie. Merci. > > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged > information that may be protected by law; > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and > delete this message and its attachments. > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been > modified, changed or falsified. > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas
- [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ietf-n… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Rokui, Reza (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Shunsuke Homma
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… peng.shaofu
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Oscar González de Dios
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… niu.xiaobing
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Shunsuke Homma
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Tarek Saad
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Ogaki, Kenichi
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Xufeng Liu
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Shunsuke Homma
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Moving forward with draft-ietf-teas-ie… Adrian Farrel