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Hi Ketan,

Thanks for the comments. =


Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
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> There are a couple of aspects in the document that I would like to
> discuss:
> =

> =

> 185	   provider networks.  The model uses (1) Layer 2 Virtual
> Private
> 186	   Network (L2VPN) [RFC4664] and/or Layer 3 Virtual Private
> Network
> =

> <discuss-1> Any reason by EVPN was not considered? There are a few
> other
> places where there is reference to L2VPN but not EVPN.

[Med] EVPN is covered indirectly by the following: =


   These protocols can be controlled, e.g., by tuning the protocol list
   under the "underlay-transport" data node defined in the L3VPN Network
   Model (L3NM) [RFC9182] and the L2VPN Network Model (L2NM) [RFC9291].

With RFC92191 =


=3D=3D
   The L2NM is scoped for a variety of Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks
   such as:

   *  Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) [RFC4761] [RFC4762]
   *  Virtual Private Wire Service (VPWS) (Section 3.1.1 of [RFC4664])
   *  Various flavors of EVPNs:
      -  VPWS EVPN [RFC8214],
      -  Provider Backbone Bridging Combined with Ethernet VPNs (PBB-
         EVPNs) [RFC7623],
      -  EVPN over MPLS [RFC7432], and
      -  EVPN over Virtual Extensible LAN (VXLAN) [RFC8365].
=3D=3D=3D

That's said, the document does not claim to be comprehensive and cite every=
 tool that can be used for the realization. Please note that we do say the =
following in the introduction:

   The document is not
   intended to be a BCP and does not claim to specify mandatory
   mechanisms to realize network slices.  Rather, a key goal of the
   document is to provide pragmatic implementation approaches by
   leveraging existing readily-available, widely-deployed techniques.

> =

> 187	   (L3VPN) [RFC4364] service instances for logical
> separation, (2) fine-
> 188	   grained resource control at the Provider Edges (PEs), (3)
> coarse-
> 189	   grained resource control within the provider network, and
> (4)
> 190	   capacity planning/management.  More details are provided
> in Sections
> 191	   3.7, 5, 6, and 7.
> =

> =

> 1124	4.3.  MPLS Label Hand-off
> =

> <discuss-2> The document does cover both MPLS and IP/IPv6/SRv6 as
> two technology
> options in the TN in several places. However, I see that SRv6
> Hand-off is missing.
> I would like to discuss if there were any specific challenges in
> including that
> or if there was any other consideration for that exclusion?
> =


[Med] We actually picked few ones to exemplify the realization.


CURRENT:
   The following sections list few
   hand-off methods for slice mapping between customer sites and
   provider networks.

   More details about the mapping between 3GPP and RFC 9543 Network
   Slices is provided in [I-D.ietf-teas-5g-network-slice-application].

Readers can look at I-D.ietf-teas-5g-network-slice-application which includ=
es a discussion on mapping based on SRv6

   6.  Methods for Mapping Between 3GPP E2E Network Slice and IETF
           Network Slice . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  16
     6.1.  Mapping based on VLAN ID  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  19
     6.2.  Mapping based on MPLS Label or SR-MPLS SID  . . . . . . .  20
     6.3.  Mapping based on SRv6 SID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  21

The document is already dense. We need to find a balance ;-)


> =

> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMMENT:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> =

> Following are some comments provided in the idnits output for v16
> of the document:
> =

> 112	1.  Introduction
> =

> 114	   This document focuses on network slicing for 5G networks,
> covering
> 115	   the connectivity between Network Functions (NFs) across
> multiple
> 116	   domains such as edge clouds, data centers, and the Wide
> Area Network
> 117	   (WAN).  The document describes a Network Slice realization
> approach
> 118	   that fulfills 5G slicing requirements by using existing
> IP/MPLS
> =

> <major> By "existing", do you mean "available and widely deployed
> at the time
> of writing this document" ... or something like that? The term
> "existing" will
> not age well in an RFC.

[Med] Yes. We used to have similar constructs ("At the time of writing (202=
4)") but removed them in the WGLC.

> =

> =

> 182	   Unlike approaches that require new protocol extensions
> (e.g.,
> 183	   [I-D.ietf-teas-ns-ip-mpls]), the realization model
> described in this
> 184	   document uses a set of building blocks commonly used in
> service
> =

> <major> By "commonly" perhaps you imply ... commonly used in
> service provider
> networks at the time of writing of this document?

[Med] Yes. We don't use "time of writing" because we will be repeating it s=
everal times, which may be heavy and simply saying the obvious.

> =

> 185	   provider networks.
> =

> 193	   This realization model uses a single Network Resource
> Partition (NRP)
> 194	   (Section 7.1 of [RFC9543]).  The applicability to multiple
> NRPs is
> 195	   out of scope.
> =

> <major> The document does talk about QoS realization and carving
> out
> resources based on DSCP/EXP. Is the use of QoS classes mapped to
> NRPs
> precluded from to realize multiple (or rather a handful of) NRPs
> as specified in
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2F
> www.ietf.org%2Farchive%2Fid%2Fdraft-ietf-teas-ns-ip-mpls-
> 05.html%23section-
> 4.1&data=3D05%7C02%7Cmohamed.boucadair%40orange.com%7Cfe334d8d025f45
> c6c50208dd71fd49e9%7C90c7a20af34b40bfbc48b9253b6f5d20%7C0%7C0%7C63
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> Dk%3D&reserved=3D0
> ?

[Med] No. Multiples QoS classes can be used for the realization of multiple=
 NRPs assuming "other measures" are implemented. A QoC class is not an NRP.

> =

> =

> 197	   Although this document focuses on 5G, the realizations are
> not
> 198	   fundamentally constrained by the 5G use case.  The
> document is not
> 199	   intended to be a BCP and does not claim to specify
> mandatory
> 200	   mechanisms to realize network slices.  Rather, a key goal
> of the
> 201	   document is to provide pragmatic implementation approaches
> by
> 202	   leveraging existing readily-available, widely-deployed
> techniques.
> =

> <minor> ... at the time of writing of this document.

[Med] Idem as above.

> =

> 203	   The document is also intended to align the mobile and the
> IETF
> 204	   perspectives of slicing from a realization perspective.
> =

> =

> 2651	12.2.  Informative References
> =

> <major> There are many references below (e.g., for VPNs) that are
> required and
> necessary for the realization of the solution in this document. I
> would think
> that they would become normative? There are a lot of references
> and a closer
> relook would be helpful.
> =


[Med] These are provided as realization examples. Hence the current classif=
ication.

> =


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