Re: [Teas] Advancing some documents

"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Wed, 15 June 2016 19:47 UTC

Return-Path: <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA8712DB49 for <teas@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.619
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.619 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D0RdQvbAIzaQ for <teas@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:47:42 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33A8912DAD7 for <teas@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:47:42 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u5FJldJv028704; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:47:40 +0100
Received: from 950129200 (jplon-nat11.juniper.net [193.110.55.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u5FJlcLt028694 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:47:39 +0100
From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
To: "'King, Daniel'" <d.king@lancaster.ac.uk>, 'TEAS WG' <teas@ietf.org>
References: <118601d1bbe7$f97eeee0$ec7ccca0$@olddog.co.uk> <8f320642-5265-0e70-3384-f51189b5aa38@labn.net> <CADOd8-ss5h8Gxisk-h=2G9jpS9NT5ngjdSXnubzaUadeixsqrQ@mail.gmail.com> <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BD0B9FD@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local>
In-Reply-To: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BD0B9FD@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:47:36 +0100
Message-ID: <073301d1c73e$c5031b70$4f095250$@olddog.co.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0734_01D1C747.26CC3E60"
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0
Thread-Index: AQITuav8ZqGtJqlaMXVabGXmIuk8lQG9ZDcEAZOAKIECWvsKEZ85f/nA
Content-Language: en-gb
X-TM-AS-MML: disable
X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.0.0.1202-22394.001
X-TM-AS-Result: No--22.198-10.0-31-10
X-imss-scan-details: No--22.198-10.0-31-10
X-TMASE-MatchedRID: UP6whsI5SHJbJCKOm3VRCYm19K09MS2N5g76IrKcXgnFSCIXijrV1n0B VwJXeFCpOg4q4lJPNt8I8o+oRtTdk/89jPXl7beCZqT7LuN3BFHhzHhiIMYpPVjhhBdxnCh6NtG K0SwcehvMHUInqqZ02h3EEAbn+GRbE3ccC6sKR1VrX6wzM0QF9DER4fcIKDqWTDW3gVhgSkkkAz bREWz9m2fpszg16ZJKr04R126GsicZskwWqoib3Iie9XwPLRlod8RkwqWc0YDa1QHV9Q+mqfVLq ekXeK+vcyxSKSOdP+xIRA38P/dwbnd14coO+UC9XzOTBCnSSg/Y2TfWYdj6Jvx4U4I3IYzttTzN hvZC5aRKkNRLf14zdCa1MaKuob8PC/ExpXrHizwifM7JMNHW68WlpAPXDRfzHQ/CSk0EQtWo/4E MzuxLbyhAwBpwK3XPiUPZPmKZOQkk2ugFoZn4tb42hLbi424DG6AQTPTIKrSekrOjtm4oRhw58L 6+gfo09ZRkVakSSW3vVbHa5Rs8t/2xX1OVrWqLVxt8iPZNr2yALjqnIlNKdNXjKfop/WvT3wqC9 Qsu3hf9+rKlRf1WaEtzk37SzX4NlPV6Vaqi4bDxxaAXDrCns4j7J3jzONjdJa6rGJR4RfowuiDz T/FFiVHi+vC6FxL8BU4uU+5y12ot0t+aIVLt+5KzWy3+GmBuXM4pVHn2LwM/makG0+v97t639oR BFUkeQ0pFGvYttetYKMMlFh4BnQEv9fM0UWYfFLXUWU5hGiFPdsdXOhOn5BeWHY3LKnzHtF3RbB lJV000nIDKoCZxv3uTVkeYosXtveEm5pElaXSbKItl61J/yZUdXE/WGn0FSXhbxZVQ5H8lgmiZ6 B9vBxSdq9mUkLcxBc8NsefKQQ3IVf5ZXAJzf5lrQeQ9iIgj
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/YOk5o7op0UgpCIRHAh-fzrCeFu8>
Subject: Re: [Teas] Advancing some documents
X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk
List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list <teas.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/teas>, <mailto:teas-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/teas/>
List-Post: <mailto:teas@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:teas-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas>, <mailto:teas-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:47:46 -0000

Yeah, thanks Dan.
 
One objective of this document is to try to anchor (architecturally) the many and varied approaches in different projects and IETF I-D all of which focus on some form of controller/orchestrator in which PCE plays a central role and where PCEP is proposed as a "southbound interface."
 
I think it is important that "we" take hold of this problem space and lead so that we are able to rationalise which mechanisms make sense and which do not, and so that we can keep technical oversight of PCE and PCEP.
 
So why is this I-D in TEAS? Well, when the previous use case and requirements drafts were doing the rounds, they were sent from PCE to TEAS because the space was considered to be wider and more general than simply a use of PCE. It seemed natural, therefore, to place this draft in TEAS where architecture work is done.
 
Adrian
 
From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of King, Daniel
Sent: 15 June 2016 17:49
To: TEAS WG
Subject: Re: [Teas] Advancing some documents
 
Hi All,
 
Just like to echo Cyril’s comments that the PCE-based control architecture is a really interesting topic and the authors have done great job of documenting recent discussions on and off the PCE list. 
 
The current open source SDN controller platforms already implement some basic PCE architecture and PCEP extensions, but there is growing trend for more capability (TE automation, optimisation and resiliency) to be enabled using PCEP. Having this document that summarises architecture, applicability and capability - and possible gaps - is very useful. I would also like to see the document progress in the TEAS WG. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                        
BR, Dan. 
 
From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Cyril Margaria
Sent: 15 June 2016 14:39
To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
Cc: 'Adrian Farrel' (adrian@olddog.co.uk) <adrian@olddog.co.uk>; teas-chairs@ietf.org; TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Teas] Advancing some documents
 
Hi, 

I am supporting the draft-zhao-teas-pce-control-function dcocument and look forward to see it progress in the WG.
This is a good summary of the current architectures and discussions.
Best Regards, 
Cyril 
 
 
On 3 June 2016 at 18:46, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
Adrian,

Thanks question, see below.


On 6/1/2016 5:28 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
> Hi chairs,
>
> I think there are a few drafts that have been discussed on the mailing list and
> which the authors believe are within scope for TEAS and would be better
> progressed if adopted by the Working Group. Of course, all of these can continue
> to be consolidated and are open for review and discussions on the mailing list,
> but if you are able to share a plan for these documents that would be helpful:
> Is anything further needed from the authors before these can advance?
>
> draft-ceccarelli-teas-actn-framework
A poll on this will be out shortly.
> draft-zhao-teas-pce-control-function
It would be good to get a little more on this one from the WG -- either
on list or in session. We individually are supportive of the work and
look forward to seeing in pursued in the WG.

> draft-zhuang-teas-scheduled-resources
The merges look good - but there's only been a few comments on the list
since it was updated.  So this falls into the same boat as the prior
draft. - We'd like to hear more from the WG before polling.

Thanks,
Lou and Pavan
> Thanks,
> Adrian
>
> _______________________________________________
> Teas mailing list
> Teas@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas
>


_______________________________________________
Teas mailing list
Teas@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas