Re: [Teas] WG Adoption poll - draft-nsdt-teas-ns-framework-05

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From: John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Adoption poll - draft-nsdt-teas-ns-framework-05
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Hi,

I agree with Adrian.  WG adoption means that the draft is providing a starting point and a direction for further work.

Yours Irrespectively,

John



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From: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
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Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Adoption poll - draft-nsdt-teas-ns-framework-05

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Hi Pavan, others,

I agree with the three points that Luis makes about this draft, and I think it will need a good deal of future work, but I don't agree with Luis's conclusion.

It seems to me that this document is a good enough starting point for the WG. We seem to have agreed that the WG should have a framework that addresses network slicing, and this is definitely advanced enough and consistent with the terminology work such that the WG can start to shape the text once the draft is adopted.

I hope we can speedily adopt the draft and then move on to list and resolve the issues that we have.

Best,
Adrian

From: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram
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Subject: [Teas] WG Adoption poll - draft-nsdt-teas-ns-framework-05

All,

This is start of a *two* week poll on making
draft-nsdt-teas-ns-framework-05 a TEAS working group document. Please
send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support".
If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If
yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see
addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends February 18th.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou