[Teas] Re: [NMOP] Re: Call for adoption: draft-havel-nmop-digital-map-concept (Ends 23/09/2024)

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Re-,

Your clarification comment is a valid one. FYI, the authors are actively working on that; see for example https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nmop/JTwMJkM5ygt8MmR5TCieMLAgz9E/.

Cheers,
Med

De : Joel Halpern <[e-mail]>
Envoyé : mardi 10 septembre 2024 10:17
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Cc : TEAS WG ([e-mail]) <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Objet : [NMOP] Re: [Teas] Call for adoption: draft-havel-nmop-digital-map-concept (Ends 23/09/2024)


Fair enough.  If it is in the charter, then I can't object.  However, I would suggest that the draft be clear that it is intended for more than just digital twins, and specify what it is for.  Otherwise, I don't know how the WG will evaluate wheether the draft meets the needs.

Yours,

Joel
On 9/10/2024 3:09 AM, [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi Joel,

NMOP has a charter item to investigate and propose solutions to address:

==FROM THE CHARTER:
Issues related to deployment/usage of YANG topology modules (e.g., to
model a Digital Map)
==

We need a concept to refer to viewing/manipulating/correlating/navigating (zooming in/zooming out)/filtering/exposing them to applications/etc. the various IETF topology models out there to address operators needs. The rationale is for the WG to better contextualize the issues and then help the assessment/mitigation effort. All these operational considerations fall in the IETF land.

Digital map may be used independent of digital twin, but still that's one recurrent case.

Cheers,
Med

De : Joel Halpern <[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]>
Envoyé : mardi 10 septembre 2024 05:39
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Cc : TEAS WG ([e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>) <[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Objet : Re: [Teas] Call for adoption: draft-havel-nmop-digital-map-concept (Ends 23/09/2024)


Maybe I am missing something basic.  This document seems like it would fit in the nmrg, where the work on digital twins is being done.  It seems very strange for the IETF to work on the definitions of mechanisms to support digital twins when the IETF has not even bought in to the concept of digital twins needing protocol support.  As far as I can tell, the IETF has not even finished agreeing on a definition to suggest to the IETF for a digital twin.

Yours,

Joel
On 9/9/2024 9:27 AM, [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi all,

This message starts a 2-week call for adoption for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-havel-nmop-digital-map-concept/.

Please reply to this message by indicating whether you support or not the adoption of this draft. Comments to motivate your preference are highly appreciated.

FWIW:

  * No IPR was disclosed for the draft [1]
  * There was fair support to adopt the doc per a poll in Vancouver [2]

The call is also cced to TEAS; replies should be sent to NMOP.

The call will run till 23 September 2024.

Thank you
Med

[1] https://github.com/ietf-wg-nmop/Logistic/blob/main/ipr-poll-cfa/draft-havel-nmop-digital-map-concept.md
[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-120-nmop-202407262000/

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