[Teas] teas-actn-pm-telemetry-autonomics

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From: tom petch <ietfa@btconnect.com>
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I commented some years ago that this I-D was contradicting itself over what prefix to use for what modules.  I see that -04 is still defective in this respect.

For me, module names and module prefixes are the starting point, the basis, of any YANG module.  Is it key performance indicators or telemetry?  Spin a coin and see how it lands.  When they are contradictory, than what can I trust  in the I-D:-)

Tom Petch