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   Thanks to all for the hard work on this document. It is definitely getti=
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f Jie's comments still unresolved.
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   I plan to scan the doc tonight and I'll try to suggest resolutions for t=
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    On 24/09/2024 10:05 CEST mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Courier New'; mso-f=
areast-language: EN-US;">Hi Pavan, all, </span></p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Courier New'; mso-f=
areast-language: EN-US;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Courier New'; mso-f=
areast-language: EN-US;">FWIW, the changes are now implemented in the publi=
c version together with additional follow-up comments from Jie: <a href=3D"=
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls/11/">https:/=
/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls/11/</a>. </span></p=
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areast-language: EN-US;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Courier New'; mso-f=
areast-language: EN-US;">Cheers,</span></p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Courier New'; mso-f=
areast-language: EN-US;">Med</span></p>=20
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       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>De&nbsp;:</strong> BOUCADAIR Mohamed =
INNOV/NET <br><strong>Envoy=C3=A9&nbsp;:</strong> lundi 9 septembre 2024 15=
:34<br><strong>=C3=80&nbsp;:</strong> 'Vishnu Pavan Beeram' &lt;vishnupavan=
@gmail.com&gt;; TEAS WG &lt;teas@ietf.org&gt;<br><strong>Cc&nbsp;:</strong>=
 TEAS WG Chairs &lt;teas-chairs@ietf.org&gt;<br><strong>Objet&nbsp;:</stron=
g> RE: [Teas] Responses for LS on "Realization of Network Slices for 5G Net=
works Using Current IP/MPLS Technologies"</p>=20
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     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Courier New'; mso-=
fareast-language: EN-US;">Hi Pavan, all,</span></p>=20
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fareast-language: EN-US;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Courier New'; mso-=
fareast-language: EN-US;">Thanks for sharing your conclusions. </span></p>=
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fareast-language: EN-US;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Courier New'; mso-=
fareast-language: EN-US;">Looks good to me. Fixed right now the ref nits: <=
a href=3D"https://github.com/boucadair/5g-slice-realization/commit/3c11d6e6=
baa2f50a10a95904c8abb29753e91034"> https://github.com/boucadair/5g-slice-re=
alization/commit/3c11d6e6baa2f50a10a95904c8abb29753e91034</a>. These nits c=
an be queues for a next iteration when we will have more comments, but we c=
an release a new version if you prefer so. Thanks.</span></p>=20
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fareast-language: EN-US;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Courier New'; mso-=
fareast-language: EN-US;">Cheers,</span></p>=20
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fareast-language: EN-US;">Med</span></p>=20
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>De&nbsp;:</strong> Vishnu Pavan Beer=
am &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com">vishnupavan@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; <br><strong>Envoy=C3=A9&nbsp;:</strong> lundi 9 septembre 2024 10:04<br>=
<strong>=C3=80&nbsp;:</strong> TEAS WG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:teas@ietf.org"=
>teas@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br><strong>Cc&nbsp;:</strong> TEAS WG Chairs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:teas-chairs@ietf.org">teas-chairs@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br><stron=
g>Objet&nbsp;:</strong> [Teas] Responses for LS on "Realization of Network =
Slices for 5G Networks Using Current IP/MPLS Technologies"</p>=20
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
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       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f; color: #212121;">WG,</span></p>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f; color: #212121;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f; color: #212121;">We sent a liaison statement [1] in June to multiple 3GP=
P groups seeking feedback on our WG draft that discusses =E2=80=9C</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: #212121;">Realization =
of Network Slices for 5G Networks Using Current IP/MPLS Technologies=E2=80=
=9D [2].<span class=3D"gmail-apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p=
>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f; color: #212121;">We have received replies from<span class=3D"gmail-apple=
-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',s=
ans-serif; color: #212121;">3GPP-TSGSA-SA2 [3], 3GPP-TSG-SA-WG5 [4] and O3G=
PPTSGRAN3 [5]. We request the WG to review the feedback and chime in with y=
our thoughts/opinions.</span></p>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f; color: #212121;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f; color: #212121;">The following is our (chairs=E2=80=99) interpretation o=
f the feedback that was received.</span></p>=20
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f; color: #212121;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
       <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"disc">=20
        <li class=3D"gmail-msolistparagraph" style=3D"color: #212121; margi=
n-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo3;"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">3GPP-TSGSA-SA2:</span></li>=20
       </ul>=20
       <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"disc">=20
        <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"circle">=20
         <li class=3D"gmail-msolistparagraph" style=3D"color: #212121; marg=
in-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo3;"><span style=3D"=
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">Remove Appendices B.1 and B.2 and just ha=
ve a reference to TS-23.501</span></li>=20
         <li class=3D"gmail-msolistparagraph" style=3D"color: #212121; marg=
in-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo3;"><span style=3D"=
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">No endorsement of the =E2=80=9CHand-off=
=E2=80=9D options discussed in Section 4 and the QoS Mapping Realization Mo=
dels in Section 5</span></li>=20
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       </ul>=20
       <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"disc">=20
        <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"circle">=20
         <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"square">=20
          <li class=3D"gmail-msolistparagraph" style=3D"color: #212121; mar=
gin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo3;"><span style=3D=
"font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">This need not warrant any changes to Sec=
tions 4 and 5. We need to ensure that the language used in these two sectio=
ns doesn=E2=80=99t imply any endorsement by 3GPP.</span></li>=20
         </ul>=20
        </ul>=20
       </ul>=20
       <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"disc">=20
        <li class=3D"gmail-msolistparagraph" style=3D"color: #212121; margi=
n-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo3;"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">3GPP-TSG-SA-WG5:</span></li>=20
       </ul>=20
       <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"disc">=20
        <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"circle">=20
         <li class=3D"gmail-msolistparagraph" style=3D"color: #212121; marg=
in-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo3;"><span style=3D"=
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">Fix the reference to 3GPP TS 28.530</span=
></li>=20
        </ul>=20
       </ul>=20
       <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"disc">=20
        <li class=3D"gmail-msolistparagraph" style=3D"color: #212121; margi=
n-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo3;"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">O3GPPTSGRAN3:</span></li>=20
       </ul>=20
       <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"disc">=20
        <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"circle">=20
         <li class=3D"gmail-msolistparagraph" style=3D"color: #212121; marg=
in-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo3;"><span style=3D"=
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">Inaccuracies exist in Appendix B.3. Sugge=
st adding references to TS-38.300 and TS-38.401</span></li>=20
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       <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"disc">=20
        <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"circle">=20
         <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm;" type=3D"square">=20
          <li class=3D"gmail-msolistparagraph" style=3D"color: #212121; mar=
gin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo3;"><span style=3D=
"font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">In other words, this is a recommendation=
 to remove Appendix B.3.</span></li>=20
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       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f; color: #212121;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f; color: #212121;">Based on the above, our recommendation is to remove App=
endix B (including the Transport Network specific sub-section) and add the =
suggested references in the Introduction. The authors have published a new =
revision (rev 10) with Appendix B removed. Please review the latest changes=
 and let us know if there are any comments/concerns.</span></p>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f; color: #212121;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f; color: #212121;">Regards,</span></p>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-seri=
f; color: #212121;">-Pavan and Oscar<span class=3D"gmail-apple-converted-sp=
ace">&nbsp;</span></span></p>=20
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