Re: [Teas] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-14: (with COMMENT)

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Wed, 23 May 2018 23:33 UTC

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From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 19:32:15 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Teas] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-14: (with COMMENT)
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Thanks -- all of these work well for me.

Thank you!
W

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 7:10 PM Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>; wrote:

> Hi Warren,
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> Thanks for providing good comments for the document. Please see inline for
> our response to your comments.
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> Please let us know if our responses are all good to you.
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> Thanks & Best regards,
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> Young and Daniele,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Kumari [mailto:warren@kumari.net]
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> draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-14: No Objection
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> I have a few nits to further improve readability:
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> Section 1:
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> "Traffic Engineered (TE) networks have a variety of mechanisms to
> facilitate separation of data plane and control plane" s/facilitate
> separation/facilitate the separation/ ?
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> *DC&YL>> Yes, agree. We will correct as you suggested. *
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> "This document describes a set of management and control functions used to
> operate one or more TE networks to construct virtual networks that can be
> represented to customers" The word "represented" here sounds odd, but I
> don't really have an alternative -- perhaps just "presented" ? Represented
> is probably technically correct, but it feels like there should be a more
> appropriate one...
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> *DC&YL>> We will replace "represented" with "presented". *
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> Section 3.4:
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> "In addition, some networks may operate a control plane and as such it is
> not practical for the customer to directly interface with network
> elements." Can you please clarify that you mean a TE (or similar) control
> plane -- I believe that *all* networks have some sort of control plane (and
> so the "some networks"
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> is false / misleading).
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> *DC&YL>> Here in this sentence, what we were saying is that “some networks
> may operate a centralized controller, whether it is TE or non-TE, and as
> such it is also not practical*
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> *for the customer to directly interface with network elements. As unclear,
> and as the first sentence already says this, we think the best is to remove
> this sentence. Hope that is clearer.*
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