Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-ietf-network-slice-definition

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Mon, 18 January 2021 20:26 UTC

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To: Uma Chunduri <umac.ietf@gmail.com>, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption - draft-nsdt-teas-ietf-network-slice-definition
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I have observed multiple conversations where the absence of a qualifier 
on "slice" or "network slice" leaves folk participating with different 
understandings.

I don't care if the modifier is "IETF" as agreed.  or if we agree on 
another term.  folks objected to using "Transport" as the qualifier, for 
understandable reasons.

Yours,
Joel

On 1/18/2021 3:15 PM, Uma Chunduri wrote:
> I meant:
> 
>  >I personally feel we (as IETF) can distinguish this important work and 
> applicability of this work *without* being explicitly prepending 'IETF'.
> 
> --
> Uma C.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:58 AM Uma Chunduri <umac.ietf@gmail.com 
> <mailto:umac.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Dear All,
> 
>     The definitions and scope defined in this draft can be applicable to
>     many networks in a generic fashion, where IETF technologies are
>     used  in various network segments. I see tremendous work done by the
>     Design Team with folks who participated in multi-domain slicing BoFs
>     prior to that  to get to this point.
> 
>     However, though the name "IETF Network slice" certainly
>     distinguishes the slicing work being done in many global
>     organizations (viz., ITU-T GSTR TN5G, ONF SDN, 3GPP 5G, ETSI ISGs
>     NGP & NFV, GSMA, MEF LSO to name a few) , it creates bit complexity 
>     when this is being applied and being referred in E2E scenarios
>     specific to a domain. I can give examples a bit later.
> 
>     I also still see a lot of other documents in this group still refer
>     to Transport Network/Transport Network Slice. I presume the name
>     will be changed across all these documents in future.
>     I personally feel we (as IETF) can distinguish this important work
>     and applicability of this work being explicitly prepending 'IETF'. I
>     shall respond to the other thread here with my suggestion.
> 
>     Last but not least, I support this work and help further to make
>     this better.
> 
>     Cheers!
>     --
>     Uma C.
> 
> 
>     On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 6:02 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram
>     <vishnupavan@gmail.com <mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         All,
> 
>         This is start of a two week poll on making
>         draft-nsdt-teas-ietf-network-slice-definition-02 a TEAS working
>         group document.
>         Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not
>         support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the
>         document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
>         like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.
> 
>         The poll ends January 18th.
> 
>         Thanks,
>         Pavan and Lou
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