Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis-11.txt

[Gyan Mishra <[e-mail]>]

Hi Adrian

I see you published a version 12.  I went through all of MEDs updates in
version 11 and ensured that my updates are mutually exclusive no overlap of
MEDs updates.

I built my updated on version 11.  I am almost done and will send out
tomorrow night.

Thanks

Gyan

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:00 AM <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
>
> Thank you for the replies. Here is some few follow-up points:
>
> * s/within the control plane or by controllers/within the control or
> management plane
>
> * "I'm not clear about the term "resource-based access control". Do you
> mean "policing"? If so, yes. Policing is mentioned just two sentences later"
>
> I actually meant resource-based admission control. This is now covered by
> the new section you added. Thanks.
>
> * " The word "economically" is, I think, giving you a different meaning to
> what is intended. I think the word is not intended to just mean
> "financially economical", but also to mean "not wasteful or profligate."
> This is similar to "efficient", but not the same. In this context,
> "economically" would certainly apply to power use, money, and any other
> resource.
> I spent a little time trying to think of an equivalent word (because if it
> is causing you unrest, it will do the same for other readers), but I was
> unable to think of one.":
>
> The concern I had is that the observed behavior is conditioned by the
> metrics/attributes/information that can be disseminated and acted upon.
> Optimizing the forwarding with a set of metrics as inputs does not
> guarantee that the overall forwarding is economically-optimized. That's why
> I provided the example of power-consumption. Such optimization is not
> currently supported at the level of a network (despite that some
> optimization can be made at the node/card level).
>
> Cheers,
> Med
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Adrian Farrel [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > Envoyé : samedi 15 mai 2021 19:40
> > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN <[e-mail]>
> > Objet : RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis-11.txt
> >
> > Here's the file.
> >
> > Many thanks for looking at this.
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrian Farrel <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: 15 May 2021 18:11
> > To: '[e-mail]' <[e-mail]>;
> > '[e-mail]' <[e-mail]>
> > Cc: 'TEAS WG Chairs' <[e-mail]>
> > Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis-11.txt
> >
> > Hi Med,
> >
> > Thanks for all of your comments.
> >
> > Nearly everything is accepted and included.
> >
> > Not sure the best way to respond to your Word file, so I embedded my
> > responses and I'll send it to you under separate cover (no need to
> > spam the mailing list).
> >
> > There'll be a -12 along soon to capture your improvements.
> >
> > Best,
> > Adrian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: 03 May 2021 15:49
> > To: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> > Cc: 'TEAS WG Chairs' <[e-mail]>
> > Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis-11.txt
> >
> > Hi Adrian, all,
> >
> > FWIW, you may find some comments at:
> > * pdf:
> > https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/draft-
> > ietf-teas
> > -rfc3272bis-11-rev%20Med.pdf
> > * doc:
> > https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/master/draft-
> > ietf-teas-
> > rfc3272bis-11-rev%20Med.docx
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Med
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Teas [mailto:[e-mail]] De la part de Adrian
> > Farrel
> > > Envoyé : mercredi 7 avril 2021 21:24 À : [e-mail] Cc : 'TEAS
> > WG
> > > Chairs' <[e-mail]> Objet : Re: [Teas] I-D Action:
> > > draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis-11.txt
> > >
> > > With this version I have filled in the remaining TBDs:
> > > - small section on intent-based network
> > > - small section on multi-layer TE (thanks, Lou, for the suggestion)
> > > - change log from 3272
> > >
> > > As far as I'm concerned this document is complete modulo review
> > > comments.
> > >
> > > It *really* needs review, but I can't force you!
> > > Maybe you can look at the sections of special interest to you?
> > > Maybe the original Design Team could take another look?
> > >
> > > Otherwise: time for WG last call?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Adrian
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: I-D-Announce <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of
> > > [e-mail]
> > > Sent: 07 April 2021 19:25
> > > To: [e-mail]
> > > Cc: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis-11.txt
> > >
> > >
> > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> > > directories.
> > > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture
> > and
> > > Signaling WG of the IETF.
> > >
> > >         Title           : Overview and Principles of Internet
> > Traffic
> > > Engineering
> > >         Author          : Adrian Farrel
> > >     Filename        : draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis-11.txt
> > >     Pages           : 91
> > >     Date            : 2021-04-07
> > >
> > > Abstract:
> > >    This document describes the principles of traffic engineering
> > (TE)
> > > in
> > >    the Internet.  The document is intended to promote better
> > >    understanding of the issues surrounding traffic engineering in
> > IP
> > >    networks and the networks that support IP networking, and to
> > > provide
> > >    a common basis for the development of traffic engineering
> > >    capabilities for the Internet.  The principles, architectures,
> > and
> > >    methodologies for performance evaluation and performance
> > > optimization
> > >    of operational networks are also discussed.
> > >
> > >    This work was first published as RFC 3272 in May 2002.  This
> > > document
> > >    obsoletes RFC 3272 by making a complete update to bring the text
> > in
> > >    line with best current practices for Internet traffic
> > engineering
> > > and
> > >    to include references to the latest relevant work in the IETF.
> > >
> > >
> > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis/
> > >
> > > There are also htmlized versions available at:
> > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis-11
> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis-11
> > >
> > > A diff from the previous version is available at:
> > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-rfc3272bis-11
> > >
> > >
> > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> > > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at
> > > tools.ietf.org.
> > >
> > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> > >
> > >
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