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Thu, 03 Apr 2025 07:57:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <174368037950.2714005.9186493499778635401@dt-datatracker-5b9b68c5b6-zxk6z> <347FDDBA-40FE-4346-8FD0-1F346D1A1ACC@juniper.net> In-Reply-To: <347FDDBA-40FE-4346-8FD0-1F346D1A1ACC@juniper.net> From: Deb Cooley Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 10:56:54 -0400 X-Gm-Features: ATxdqUHLX-O_-p3GYNiljcN6_BthcU-WMTCmjOzRvWuWOxCxqa6sn-ChlyE95vE Message-ID: To: Krzysztof Szarkowicz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bedf8d0631e0fb2b" Message-ID-Hash: OHGXO7ANMOXRLUWXMM2YP5NRSSBMB5OM X-Message-ID-Hash: OHGXO7ANMOXRLUWXMM2YP5NRSSBMB5OM X-MailFrom: debcooley1@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-teas.ietf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Ketan Talaulikar , "Mr. Mohamed Boucadair" , The IESG , "draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls@ietf.org" , "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , TEAS WG , Vishnu Pavan Kumar Beeram X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6 Precedence: list Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5BTeas=5D_Re=3A_Deb_Cooley=27s_No_Objection_on_draft-ietf-teas-5g?= =?utf-8?q?-ns-ip-mpls-17=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000bedf8d0631e0fb2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that works for me. Deb On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:14=E2=80=AFAM Krzysztof Szarkowicz wrote: > Hi Ketan, > > Yes, this is much better. > > Thanks, > Krzysztof > > On 2025 Apr 3, at 15:05, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: > > > [External Email. Be cautious of content] > > > Hi Med/Deb, > > About this "won't age well" aspect, how about "at the time of publication > of this document" ? > > Just trying to figure out the best way to go about this ... > > Thanks, > Ketan > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 5:32=E2=80=AFPM wro= te: > >> Hi Deb, >> >> Thank you for the review. >> >> Please see inline. >> >> Cheers, >> Med >> >> > -----Message d'origine----- >> > De : Deb Cooley via Datatracker >> > Envoy=C3=A9 : jeudi 3 avril 2025 13:40 >> > =C3=80 : The IESG >> > Cc : draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls@ietf.org; teas-chairs@ietf.org; >> > teas@ietf.org; vbeeram@juniper.net; vbeeram@juniper.net >> > Objet : Deb Cooley's No Objection on draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip- >> > mpls-17: (with COMMENT) >> > >> > >> > Deb Cooley has entered the following ballot position for >> > draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls-17: No Objection >> > >> > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to >> > all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to >> > cut this introductory paragraph, however.) >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > COMMENT: >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > Thank you to Joe Salowey for his secdir reviews. >> > >> > Introduction, para 1 and 6: What does '(per 2025)' mean? Should >> > this be a >> > reference? Or is it actually a date reference? If this is a date >> > reference, >> > please consider changing it, as dates like this won't age well. >> >> [Med] aha! That's a snapshot, if you will. This was actually added in -1= 7 >> to address a comment from Ketan to who complained that "existing" and >> "widely-deployed" won't age well (interesting to see how the same argum= ent >> is used here. >> >> > >> > Section 11, NSC Auth, para 1, last sentence: Please replace with >> > "The >> > YANG-based management protocols have to use a secure transport >> > layer such as >> > SSH [RFC4252], TLS [RFC8446], or QUIC [RFC9000]. The YANG-based >> > management >> > protocols also have to use mutual authentication." >> >> [Med] Good catch. Tweaked to be consistent with the wording in the >> template after you review. Thanks. >> >> > >> > Section 11, Data Confid, para 1: Please add 'and other security >> > features.' to >> > the end of the sentence. >> >> [Med] Not sure to get this one. The SLE here is specifically focusing on >> encryption. >> >> > >> > Section 11, second to last para: Either replace 'an attacker from >> > within the >> > transport network' with 'An on-path attacker', or change the last >> > sentence to >> > remove 'such an on-path attacker' with 'such an attacker within >> > the transport >> > network'. I would also change 'make more damage' to 'inflict more >> > damage'. >> > >> >> [Med] WFM. All the changes can be tracked at: >> https://github.com/boucadair/5g-slice-realization/pull/222/commits/2e8a8= f2ad7e35dc2254f6072cd1798c579aa9240 >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________= ____________________________________ >> Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations >> confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc >> pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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that works for me.

Deb
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On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:14=E2=80=AFAM Krzysztof Szar= kowicz <kszarkowicz@juniper.n= et> wrote:
On 2025 Apr 3, at 15:05, Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

[External Email. Be cautious of content]


Hi Med/Deb,

About this "won't age well" aspect, how about "at t= he time of publication of this document" ?

Just trying to figure out the best way to go about this ...

Thanks,
Ketan


On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 5:32=E2=80=AFP= M <moh= amed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
Hi Deb,

Thank you for the review.

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med

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> Cc=C2=A0: draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls@ietf.org; teas-chairs@ietf.= org;
> teas@ietf.org; = vbeeram@juniper.net; vbeeram@juniper.net
> Objet=C2=A0: Deb Cooley's No Objection on draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip= -
> mpls-17: (with COMMENT)
>
>
> Deb Cooley has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-teas-5g-ns-ip-mpls-17: No Objection
>
> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to
> all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to
> cut this introductory paragraph, however.)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMMENT:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Thank you to Joe Salowey for his secdir reviews.
>
> Introduction, para 1 and 6:=C2=A0 What does '(per 2025)' mean?= =C2=A0 Should
> this be a
> reference?=C2=A0 Or is it actually a date reference? If this is a date=
> reference,
> please consider changing it, as dates like this won't age well.
[Med] aha! That's a snapshot, if you will. This was actually added in -= 17 to address a comment from Ketan to who complained that "existing&qu= ot; and "widely-deployed"=C2=A0 won't age well (interesting t= o see how the same argument is used here.

>
> Section 11, NSC Auth, para 1, last sentence: Please replace with
> "The
> YANG-based management protocols have to use a secure transport
> layer such as
> SSH [RFC4252], TLS [RFC8446], or QUIC [RFC9000].=C2=A0 The YANG-based<= br> > management
> protocols also have to use mutual authentication."

[Med] Good catch. Tweaked to be consistent with the wording in the template= after you review. Thanks.

>
> Section 11, Data Confid, para 1:=C2=A0 Please add 'and other secur= ity
> features.' to
> the end of the sentence.

[Med] Not sure to get this one. The SLE here is specifically focusing on en= cryption.

>
> Section 11, second to last para:=C2=A0 Either replace 'an attacker= from
> within the
> transport network' with 'An on-path attacker', or change t= he last
> sentence to
> remove 'such an on-path attacker' with 'such an attacker w= ithin
> the transport
> network'.=C2=A0 I would also change 'make more damage' to = 'inflict more
> damage'.
>

[Med] WFM. All the changes can be tracked at: https://github.com/boucadair/5g-slice-realization/pull/222/commits/2e8a8f2a= d7e35dc2254f6072cd1798c579aa9240

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