[Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR
"John Loughney" <john.loughney@kolumbus.fi> Thu, 25 May 2006 13:29 UTC
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From: John Loughney <john.loughney@kolumbus.fi>
To: Andy Bierman <ietf@andybierman.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 22:42:19 +0300
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Subject: [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR
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Andy, For what it's worth, I agree with you. Having a single editor simplifies many things, but having a authors list allows full credit to all parties. John - original message - Subject: Re: RFC Author Count and IPR From: Andy Bierman <ietf@andybierman.com> Date: 05/24/2006 7:19 pm David Harrington wrote: > If I remember correctly, we only limit the number of suthors on the > first page of the document. > > It is perfectly acceptable to list a longer set of names inside the > document in an contributors section. It's not just the first page. It also affects the reference citation used in the RFC Index and all other RFCs. I believe the 5 author rule was used as justification to remove most of the original SNMPv2 authors from the author list and all further reference citations, when the RFC 1901-1909 series was advanced. I don't really understand what purpose this serves. > > I also have concerns about who should be listed as an "author" and > have copyrights when a work is developed by a WG. The demand to do > things with IETF documents beyond IETF standards work seems to be > growing, so it will be an increasingly difficult problem if we do not > identify all the people who contributed significant portions of a > document (where significant is of course open to debate). There is a problem with companies piling on the authors for I-D proposals to make it look like lots of people worked really hard on it and all agree on the contents. (This is hardly ever the case.) Then when you go to WG draft, there are already 5 or 7 names as authors, and the WG wants to add more. I think then, you have to pick a real Editor (responsible for all edits all the way through AUTH48) and just list that person as Editor on the first page and citations, and put everybody in the Authors section in the back. IMO, this is different than removing the author(s) of a previous version of an RFC. I object to that practice. > > dbh Andy _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Techspec mailing list Techspec@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/techspec
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- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Masataka Ohta
- [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Russ Housley
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Sam Hartman
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Russ Housley
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Sam Hartman
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Bob Braden
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Russ Housley
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Bob Braden
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Sam Hartman
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Sam Hartman
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Bob Braden
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Vijay Devarapallli
- [Techspec] RE: RFC Author Count and IPR David Harrington
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Ken Raeburn
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Henning Schulzrinne
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Vijay Devarapallli
- [Techspec] RE: RFC Author Count and IPR Gray, Eric
- [Techspec] RE: RFC Author Count and IPR Gray, Eric
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Andy Bierman
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Lucy E. Lynch
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Bob Braden
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Bob Braden
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Lucy E. Lynch
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Bob Braden
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Lucy E. Lynch
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Bob Braden
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Lucy E. Lynch
- [Techspec] Tracking IPR (Re: RFC Author Count and… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Harald Alvestrand
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR John Loughney
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Lucy E. Lynch
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Lucy E. Lynch
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR Bob Braden
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR todd glassey
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR bmanning
- Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR todd glassey
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Bill Fenner
- [Techspec] Re: RFC Author Count and IPR Dave Crocker
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