Re: [Teep] [EXT] Re: Charter Text

[" 刘大鹏(鹏成) " <[e-mail]>]

Hello all,
We get agreement on #2 and have enough meeting attendees who volunteer in answer to 3 and 4,   does that mean the answer of #1 is also positive? Since #1 is the prerequisite of the answer to #2, #3, #4.Maybe we can have a virtual BoF to confirm this before Nov meeting?
Regards,Dapeng(Max) Liu------------------------------------------------------------------From:Dave Thaler <[e-mail]>Send Time:2017年9月24日(星期日) 03:33To:[e-mail] <[e-mail]>Subject:Re: [Teep] [EXT] Re:  Charter Text
Typically at a WG-forming BOF the questions are: Do people understand the problem?   Do people think the problem is tractable?   This includes discussion of the correct scoping of “the problem” (too broad,
 too narrow, whatever).Are there people willing to author specs?Are there people willing to review specs? In the first BoF the issue was that at the end of first bof only about 40% said yes if I remember correctly.

So in my view, the key goals of the next BoF are that we ensure that 90% of the people say yes to #1,

we get agreement on #2 as scoped in the proposed charter text, and there are enough meeting attendees who volunteer in answer to 3 and 4.Dave From: TEEP [mailto:[e-mail]]
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Subject: Re: [Teep] [EXT] Re: Charter Text Hi Nancy,

Many Thanks!  In that spirit, please allow me to echo Lubna, Ming, Petr & so many others stating "yes, yes, yes, yes," and sharing my excitement for the formation of this Working Group.  Thank You Again!


Looking Forward,

Brian


Brian Witten

Sr. Director, Symantec Research Labs

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On Sep 22, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) <[e-mail]> wrote:Folks, As a reminder, while it has been good to get recognition that this is an area of interest that perhaps the IETF should look at chartering, it is important to note that the
 consensus is not about “voting by corporation” but more about individuals who feel this is important and express support and incite discussion. 
 That said, moving forward please join  (those who have responded to this email and are in the “To”) or have your colleagues join the mail group to continue discussions. Thanks,  Nancy From:
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Subject: Re: [Teep] Charter Text hi,  Beijing Laser Tech. support it.thanks. 周鹏CEO北京雷森科技发展有限公司Beijing Laser Technology Development CO.,LTD地址：西直门北大街甲43号金运大厦7层 
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ppeterkaa; 成鹏Subject: re: [Teep] Charter TextHello Nancy, Thanks! Actually, there are lots of companies/experts are very interested in the proposed TEEP work. But they may not familiar with IETF process, I hope they would getting more active in the list after the longsummer vacation:) Note: I have copied to all the experts that are interested in TEEP based on offline discussions.
To all the experts copied in this mail: Please subscribe to TEEP email list first if you want to reply.   Here is how to subscribe:

https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teep Thanks,Max------------------------------------------------------------------From:Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) <[e-mail]>Send Time:2017年9月12日(星期二)
 23:50To:Lubna Dajani <[e-mail]>; Petr Peterka <[e-mail]>Cc:[e-mail] <[e-mail]>Subject:Re: [Teep] Charter Text Thank you Lubna and Petr! Would still like to hear from others and also solicit feedback on the proposed charter text. Warm regards,                Nancy From:
Lubna Dajani <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 4:40 AM
To: Petr Peterka <[e-mail]>Cc:
"[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]"
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Subject: Re: [Teep] Charter Text please allow me to echo Petr's responses. 1. Yes2. Yes3. Yes4. Yes  I am personally very excited to see this WG form and I look forward to actively contributing to the evolution of this
 protocol as I have since the ideation stages of this protocol …  Thank you Nancy, Petr and everyone here… Lubna__________________________________________________Lubna Dajani  I  Allternet Ltd.@lubnadajani@futuristasORG+ 1 201 982 0934  Confidentiality Notice: The
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Mixmax   On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 2:48 AM, Petr Peterka
[e-mail] wrote:Hi NancyI think we had a very productive meeting yesterday. Here are my answers to your questions: 1) Do you understand what TEEP is trying to achieve?
ANSWER: Yes, I do. I’d like to add that the charter may re-emphasize that the proposed WG is not going to define the TEE or the TAM service themselves but
 just the protocol between them.  2) Is this work that should be done in general?ANSWER: Yes, it should since there are going to be more and more trusted execution environments (lower case) especially with the proliferation of IoT devices
 which will need more security than what they have today. 3) Is this work that should be done in the IETF, or does it belong to somewhere else?ANSWER: Since we are trying to define a protocol that is independent of the different TEE implementations, I believe that IETF is the right home for it. 4) Should we form a WG with given charter to work on this?ANSWER: Yes, that is my recommendation. Thanks          Petr From: TEEP [mailto:[e-mail]]
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Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [Teep] Charter Text All,Please provide feedback on the results of yesterday’s side meeting.  In particular, we’d like to get feedback on whether this the right scope and if we have captured it appropriately.
 If it is not, also please comment and if possible, provide suggestions for improvement. We would like to continue discussion over email and get consensus around the 2nd week of September so that we can have a path forward.  In particular we would like to
 get answers for: 1) Do you understand what TEEP is trying to achieve?
2) Is this work that should be done in general?3) Is this work that should be done in the IETF, or does it belong to somewhere else?4) Should we form a WG with given charter to work on this? Warm regards,
    Nancy & Tero (TEEP BoF Chairs) From:
TEEP <[e-mail]> on behalf of Hannes Tschofenig <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 5:56 AM
To: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Teep] Charter Text Here is the charter text we came up in the side-meeting today.
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TEEP -- A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement Charter The Trusted Execution Environment (TEE) is a secure area of a processor. The TEE provides security features, such as isolated execution, integrity of Trusted Applications along with
 confidentiality of their assets. In general terms, the TEE offers an execution space that provides a higher level of security than a "rich" operating system and more functionality than a secure element. For example, implementations of the TEE concept have
 been developed by ARM, and Intel using the TrustZone and the SGX technology, respectively. To programmatically install, update, and delete applications running in the TEE, this protocol runs between a service running within the TEE, a relay application or service access
 point on the device's network stack and a server-side infrastructure that interacts with and optionally maintains the applications. Some tasks are security sensitive and the server side requires information about the device characteristics in form of attestation
 and the device-side may require information about the server. Privacy considerations have to be taken into account with authentication features and attestation. This working group aims to develop an application layer protocol providing TEEs with the following functionality,* lifecycle management of trusted applications, and
* security domain management. A security domain allows a service provider's applications to be isolated so that one security domain cannot be influenced by another, unless it exposes an API to allow it. The solution approach must take a wide range of TEE and relevant technologies into account and will focus on the use of public key cryptography.
 The group will produce the following deliverables. First, an architecture document describing the involved entities, their relationships, assumptions, the keying framework and relevant
 use cases. Second, a solution document that describes the above-described functionality. The choice of encoding format(s) will be decided in the working group. The group may document several attestation technologies considering the different hardware capabilities,
 performance, privacy and operational properties. The group will maintain a close relationship with the GlobalPlatform, Trusted Computing Group,  and other relevant standards to ensure proper use of existing TEE-relevant application
 layer interfaces.  Milestones Dec 2017     Submit "TEEP Architecture" document as WG item. Feb 2018     Submit "TEEP Protocol" document as WG item. July 2018     Submit "TEEP Architecture" to the IESG for publication as an Informational RFC. Feb 2019     Submit "TEEP Protocol" to the IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard. Additional calendar items:
 Nov 2017     IETF #100 Hackathon to work on TEEP protocol prototype implementations.
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