Re: [Teep] [Suit] Tutorial and Hackathon
Emmanuel Baccelli <Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr> Wed, 14 August 2019 08:46 UTC
Return-Path: <emmanuel.baccelli@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54A01200A4; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 01:46:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.399
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id faax2Jrapoqg; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 01:46:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-ot1-f48.google.com (mail-ot1-f48.google.com [209.85.210.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 988C11200A3; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 01:46:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-ot1-f48.google.com with SMTP id j7so35796155ota.9; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 01:46:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qpa6149bhb6H3rOhkPiK/5Fnza5ugtN0Y1ieddP3e6Q=; b=ruvenk7fpEQFQ3qhJO7EJ2U0EQx4h3JF+BE0yWFzdZdHOdu0DDuSHiocYfG3bfs5Gw UIZjvCxtKMvLHO9l2M8EQ3hifU1xk1lgm4YMlAspdwtrcxkbJ/QIOY3u40nIBGAwA4OF cqjSAh+VIYYk2IwD7ypy4/jMFJOZAD6CT5LiUpoSBH3UesCaKLUTBpJHM0TrUAfD9U2a P2knisRKi+kNpqF9w+aSxb+x/ej+oEtbQ9L1raXcbPzJOq6r3ZsrMDY7zh1ecAqkRViN q6TZrCcsLRGw4n/KPZFf+oG3gU44KgIWYehutp6IgNk1B0GQSOZinMkvzdkWryeQ0Oox jNPQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVh45pQ3tgjERYUS+bPl/Cn99XGOZyBChqU6CAc3GkpzJ+Q9BTA nE/qhNcHTHiFSszL7Q/Yxf1gAYU1MPsGUElAkBwKQsMw
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz4U9oMZ2gARYudWAZYhdaZ4EAPQUJNHTX+ggysjbKJpb3R9lQu86pIfTX4CVJTUKNfFlwghmFlgj2dZefkaw0=
X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7988:: with SMTP id h8mr38135028otm.301.1565772394704; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 01:46:34 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <VI1PR08MB53603E5BF61EF8757B303591FAD20@VI1PR08MB5360.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> <fdb7894657df408dab5621c5a473624f@x13pwdurdag1001.AMER.DELL.COM> <VI1PR08MB53605E8DCCDF20612715D09CFAAD0@VI1PR08MB5360.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR08MB53605E8DCCDF20612715D09CFAAD0@VI1PR08MB5360.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
From: Emmanuel Baccelli <Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:46:20 +0200
Message-ID: <CANK0pbaDOiHyEdb=CNmCvky+ExcPxiw7tUKKCAYj225RHYAtFA@mail.gmail.com>
To: "suit@ietf.org" <suit@ietf.org>
Cc: "Faibish.Sorin@dell.com" <Faibish.Sorin@dell.com>, "teep@ietf.org" <teep@ietf.org>, "t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de" <t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000062b15d05900fcbcf"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teep/yU9ti_l8qBrbomrk6uVrVh1R2wI>
Subject: Re: [Teep] [Suit] Tutorial and Hackathon
X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement <teep.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/teep>, <mailto:teep-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/teep/>
List-Post: <mailto:teep@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:teep-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teep>, <mailto:teep-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 08:46:38 -0000
FYI here's a link to the previous SUIT hackathon/interim which we organized last year, that Hannes mentions. https://github.com/suit-wg/Hackathon-Interim-Berlin So the idea would be to go prepend to this format some sort of tutorial, to be discussed, then. Right? On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:28 AM Hannes Tschofenig < Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> wrote: > Hi Sorin, > > > > Thanks for your feedback. I believe your tools would be helpful in the > context of the TEEP work but less so for the SUIT work (but maybe I am > wrong). It is certainly something to think about as we are preparing the > virtual machine image. > > > > Regarding the date: the thinking was that we should try it as early as > possible but still leaving us enough time. The challenge with attaching the > event to the IETF meeting is simply that there are so many other activities > attached to it. While the hackathon at the IETF meeting is great (and I > always enjoy attending it) it turns out getting so busy that it is > difficult to get the actual coding done because there are so many > distractions. With a complex topic as embedded development and TEEs I > believe having a much, much smaller group would actually be beneficial for > folks. The SUIT hackathon in Berlin was we did last year was such an > example. It was very focused and we accomplished a lot. > > > > Ciao > > Hannes > > > > > > *From:* Faibish.Sorin@dell.com <Faibish.Sorin@dell.com> > *Sent:* Dienstag, 13. August 2019 15:08 > *To:* Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>; teep@ietf.org; > suit@ietf.org > *Cc:* t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de > *Subject:* RE: Tutorial and Hackathon > > > > Hannes, > > > > As you know I already made the first step at Hackathon in Montreal when I > brought a VM that I used to run the DDoS based on IoT devices. So, if there > will be a VM with development tools I can add to it my python tools so all > can check their devices. I can provide to Thomas all my tools to be also > included in the VM. I have a problem though; it will require an additional > travel to Berlin outside of the IETF formal meetings and it might create a > problem for some people under the current travel restrictions. As it has to > be F2F maybe we can do it a day before IETF 107 in Vancouver? Thoughts? > Thank you > > > > ./Sorin > > > > *From:* TEEP <teep-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Hannes Tschofenig > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2019 4:24 AM > *To:* teep@ietf.org; suit@ietf.org > *Cc:* Thomas C. Schmidt > *Subject:* [Teep] Tutorial and Hackathon > > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > Hi all, > > > > at the Montreal meeting we briefly talked about the idea of organizing a > tutorial followed by a hackathon for SUIT and TEEP. > > A few discussions later we came up with the following story. > > > > Thomas Schmidt (HAW Hamburg) offered to host the event in Berlin. As a > date around Jan/Feb 2020 looks more realistic to prepare all the > necessary material. The idea was to create a virtual machine with the > development environment pre-installed and to make it available to the > interested participants well in advance so that we don’t have to waste time > with tool/IDE problems. This virtual machine image would primarily be used > for embedded development. For the TEEP story a separate setup will be > needed to support TrustZone/SGX-based devices (since the development > environments are different). The virtual machine setup for embedded > development would be tailored to a specific embedded hardware and we > haven’t decided yet what hardware to use. The SUIT hackathon demo boards > used in earlier IETF Hackathons may be an reasonable choice. Thoughts are > nevertheless welcome. At the tutorial we would get participants up to speed > on the most recent protocol/manifest format and the already written tools > (e.g., the Python tool to create a manifest) so that time at the hackathon > is spent as productive as possible. > > > > We thought it makes sense to cover both SUIT and TEEP in a single event > because both groups plan to the manifest format and some of the use cases > overlap. > > > > Russ suggested to conclude the event with a virtual interim meeting (maybe > an hour long) to discuss the lessons learned. > > > > As you can see, the event is focused on hands-on work and hence we will > not offer remote participation possibilities. If you are not interested in > writing code this event is likely not very useful for you. > > > > We need your feedback: > > > > - Would you like to participate in such an event? > - In case you know already, what topic would you like to explore at > the event? > - Is the Jan/Feb 2020 timeframe good for you? > - Is your interest in TEEP, SUIT, or both? > - Do you have additional suggestions for getting most out of this > event? > > > > Ciao > > Hannes > > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the > contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the > information in any medium. Thank you. > IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the > contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the > information in any medium. Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > Suit mailing list > Suit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/suit >
- [Teep] Tutorial and Hackathon Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Teep] Tutorial and Hackathon Faibish.Sorin
- Re: [Teep] Tutorial and Hackathon Russ Housley
- Re: [Teep] Tutorial and Hackathon Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Teep] [Suit] Tutorial and Hackathon Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Teep] [Suit] Tutorial and Hackathon Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Teep] Tutorial and Hackathon Faibish.Sorin
- Re: [Teep] Tutorial and Hackathon Faibish.Sorin