Re: [Terminology] Guidance for NIST Staff on Using Inclusive Language in Documentary Standards (NISTIR 8366)

Lloyd W <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> Sun, 02 May 2021 02:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Terminology] Guidance for NIST Staff on Using Inclusive Language in Documentary Standards (NISTIR 8366)
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Anticipating exactly this is why

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wood-term-modest-proposal/

calls out the TERM WG as a complaints handler - see around the TERM2 mention.

Having TERM effectively as a volunteer HR department accruing power is dystopian. That's not somewhere you would want to go.

The RFC Editor function needs more authority, not less.

Lloyd Wood
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> On 2 May 2021, at 12:24, reynolds@cogitage.pairsite.com wrote:
> 
> But I haven't seen any discussion of failure paths.  Being extra cautious given the specific issue involved, which has developed over a lllooonnnggg period of complaints, it might be worth explicitly discussing who would be responsible for handling any complaints.  If IETF were to receive any, would they just shuttle them over to NIST?  To who at NIST?  By what process of "shuttling"?  And so on.  Would there end up being significant delay involved?  So alternatively, maybe a TERM WG should exist just to maintain an RFC which would include the two references (to NIST and to CMOS), and end with a "<...> is the responsible contact for the RFC".  If it turns out there are no complaints or questions, then it isn't taking much time from anyone.  If however it would take a lot of time, maybe better to have a separate TERM RFC and save time for the ITEF RFC Editor