[Terminology] Francesca Palombini's Abstain on charter-ietf-term-00-03: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: [Terminology] Francesca Palombini's Abstain on charter-ietf-term-00-03: (with COMMENT)
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Francesca Palombini has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-term-00-03: Abstain When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-term/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- While I also agree with my co-ADs that any effort to make the IETF more inclusive is important (and I won't repeat everything Warren, Rob or Éric already said about supporting inclusivity efforts in IETF and aligning with other SDO's similar efforts) I don't think I can ballot anything else than Abstain. If there was a Recuse button, I would ballot that instead, but as there is not I am abstaining instead. There are mainly two reasons for this: 1. And most important - I have co-chaired gendispatch and shepherded the first proposal on this topic through the recommendation to create a WG (based on draft-gondwana-effective-terminology) [1], and although I have been as unbiased as possible, it would feel strange for me to approve on the chartering of this working group, while I also (together with my co-chair and AD at the time) evaluated the community consensus that lead to effort on chartering the working group. 2. Because I have followed the discussion on the topic very actively, if not since the beginning at least since its arrival in gendispatch at IETF108, I am concerned about the potential of this work to create divisiveness and hurt in the community, and I am worried about the potential of the working group of being destructive rather than constructive. The conclusion is that I have a serious concern about this working group being chartered, but as my concern is not actionable, and as I stand behind my evaluation of consensus at the time of chairing gendispatch (after hearing the community speak in 1 meeting, 2 interims [2], and countless emails [3]), I will not block this effort. I however wanted to mark my opinion and make sure the resp AD and the whole IESG pays particular attention to its evolution. Thank you Ben for summarizing the last set of comments we got on the charter. Additionally, as an actionable comment, I still think mentioning in the charter that draft-gondwana-effective-terminology is the starting point of this work might help. Francesca [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/iHDh7KBVRvGB2EWKYYh11LjP95E/ [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-108-gendispatch/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2020-gendispatch-01-202009012000/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2020-gendispatch-03-202009071100/ [3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/gendispatch/?q=terminology (excerpt, I know there is more)
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