Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate Authorities and fixes HTTPS security
Ben Laurie <benl@google.com> Mon, 16 December 2013 22:31 UTC
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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:31:36 +0000
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From: Ben Laurie <benl@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate Authorities and fixes HTTPS security
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On 16 December 2013 22:12, Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> wrote: > On Dec 16, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Ben Laurie <benl@google.com> wrote: > > Fun though it is to debate the merits of bitcoin, the question at hand > is whether we should form a WG. > > If you want to propose a bitcoin based protocol, go right ahead. > > > Though this thread is more of an announcement, it can also be considered a > first draft of a proposal for DNSNMC. > > Paper was linked to in the first post, here it is again: > > http://okturtles.com/other/dnsnmc_okturtles_overview.pdf > > My difficulties with bitcoin as a whole are on record. > > > OK... and so are the replies to your paper. > > P.S. I think you're criticising a different paper. For example, this > one doesn't even mention IP addresses. > > > What are you mentioning then? What does this paragraph refer to, if not IP > addresses? > > Next we have to agree who should get the coin. This is not particularly > hard. First we use efficient unbounded agreement to number the current > participants11 sequentially. We then use it to agree a consensus random > number. This could be done, for example, by agreeing a commitment for each > participant, and then revealing the value they committed to, adding them all > together and taking the modulo of that total, which would randomly designate > a participant. For anyone following along: there's little chance you'll understand this paragraph without reading the paper. Sorry. But it doesn't refer to IP addresses. Once more: this is not the forum for debating the merits of bitcoin.
- [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate Autho… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ben Laurie
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ali-Reza Anghaie
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Rob Stradling
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ben Laurie
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ben Laurie
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Paul Lambert
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ralph Holz
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Jacob Appelbaum
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ralph Holz
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Rob Stradling
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Jacob Appelbaum
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Jacob Appelbaum
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Santosh Chokhani
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ralph Holz
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Rob Stradling
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ralph Holz
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Carl Wallace
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ralph Holz
- Re: [therightkey] algorithm blacklisting Jacob Appelbaum