Re: [therightkey] First public DNSChain server went online yesterday!

Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> Sat, 08 February 2014 05:20 UTC

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Significant improvements to the project's README were just pushed, hopefully this helps clarify what the project does:

https://github.com/okTurtles/dnschain

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On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
> 
> On Feb 7, 2014, at 8:02 PM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> 
>> So why do you want a TLD in it? It's broken and insecure. Go somewhere
>> secure? Oh, you mean it is still useful and secure enough for you? Maybe
>> it is secure and useful enough for everyone else too?
> 
> ... oh dear ...
> 
>> https://nohats.ca/wordpress/blog/2012/04/09/you-cant-p2p-the-dns-and-have-it-too/
> 
> Think that blog post was shot down on metzdowd or randombit, I won't bother repeating the conversation here. Sufficed to say that it's incorrect.
> 
>> Yes, pay ICANN $120k
> 
> I'd rather not, and there's no need or compelling reason to. They can take their monopoly and slowly disappear with it.
> 
>> Yes it is. I'm sure you can pay that $120k immediately once you tell
>> your angel investor about your grand plan on how to save _everyone_ in
>> the world from their $10/year domain rip-off.
> 
> Don't need angel investors. Code works, and I have my server. You can use it if you'd like, I won't charge you. :-)
> 
>> How come you _need_ them _and_ will put them out of business?
> 
> It sounds like you do not understand what DNSChain is.
> 
> I don't need them, nor does anyone else. I'm using .dns right now, and .bit, and so are others, and ICANN is not involved in any way.
> 
>> Why not pretend you succeeded and ICANN and the DNS is dead. So no need for your
>> .dns TLD anymore, since the root is dead. Why do you want .dns again?
> 
> DNS wouldn't be dead if ICANN were gone, it would just be different.
> 
> Instead of depending on a centralized authority that charges everyone money, it would be distributed.
> 
> The blockchain works. DHT works.
> 
> We have the technology. It's here now.
> 
> No need to push a centralized authority on anyone.
> 
>> You didn't even address two valid points Andrew brought up:
>> 
>> 1) You are going to cause sending junk queries all over the internet.
>>   What are your plans to preven/reduce that?
> 
> Sorry, I don't understand what the problem is? Could you elaborate?
> 
>> 2) Why do you need a TLD .dns, and why can't you use a $15/year
>>   iwillneverrunnameservershere.org
> 
> 
> It's a meta-TLD, not a TLD.
> 
> Each .dns is owned by just one DNSChain server. Yours, hopefully. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Greg
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