Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate Authorities and fixes HTTPS security

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 03 January 2014 17:18 UTC

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<list moderator hat on>

Folks - Phill is right that the subject line here is wrong.

Please fix if there's more to be discussed on this topic.

And I'd welcome some more discussion on CT and the proposal
to form a WG. Some drafts would be even better!

S.

On 01/03/2014 05:15 PM, Carl Wallace wrote:
> On 1/3/14, 12:12 PM, "Ralph Holz" <holz@net.in.tum.de> wrote:
>> Tell me something new. ;-) Although in fact, the whole thing goes much
>> deeper. A broken hash algorithm means root cert-like compromise as it
>> means the capacity to imitate a correct signature by a root cert. There
>> is no fix for this but blacklisting. Not in any model with TTPs, by the
>> way.
> 
> You mean blacklisting the algorithm, right?
> 
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