Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate Authorities and fixes HTTPS security
Ali-Reza Anghaie <ali@packetknife.com> Sat, 14 December 2013 19:25 UTC
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From: Ali-Reza Anghaie <ali@packetknife.com>
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Subject: Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate Authorities and fixes HTTPS security
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On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> wrote: > Given the success of the US government in shutting down eGold type schemes I > am very skeptical about the stability of 'namecoin'. If we accept the > purported scenarios that motivate the scheme then namecoin won't last very > long. Aside from the tactful / lack thereof issues in the delivery - this is a key point not addressed in the proposal. Adoption requires not only a State unwilling to quash it but ISPs and other providers willing to support it. This isn't just a US issue, it's quite prevalent an issue in every moderately to well connected State. I see nothing in this proposal as of now that I could see any major provider getting behind in a major way. > The fact that BitCoin has survived this long is rather surprising. We have > already seen a huge robbery of over $200 million in bitcoin (from a drug > dealer). And now we have people trying to de-anonymize the system to stop > the coins being spent (!) I'm not sure I agree here - I think it has a lot of believers but also as importantly it has a lot of power brokers perfectly happy to let it thrive in the niche area where it can be corralled into easily identified groups. This tactic will fail the State with other Bitcoin derivatives but the initial runup (which we're still in) somewhat reflects a normal permissive environment with the hopes of criminalization benefits to the State. -Ali
- [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate Autho… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ben Laurie
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ali-Reza Anghaie
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Rob Stradling
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ben Laurie
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ben Laurie
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Paul Lambert
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ralph Holz
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Tao Effect
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Jacob Appelbaum
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ralph Holz
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Rob Stradling
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Jacob Appelbaum
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Jacob Appelbaum
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Santosh Chokhani
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ralph Holz
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Leif Johansson
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Rob Stradling
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ralph Holz
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Carl Wallace
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [therightkey] DNSNMC deprecates Certificate A… Ralph Holz
- Re: [therightkey] algorithm blacklisting Jacob Appelbaum