Re: [therightkey] First public DNSChain server went online yesterday!

Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> Sat, 08 February 2014 22:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [therightkey] First public DNSChain server went online yesterday!
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I think I might be partly responsible for the misunderstanding expressed in this thread.

I had failed to protest the comparison of a meta-TLD like *.dns to *.bit and *.onion.

They are not the same thing at all, and hence the difference in terminology.

I think I was able to state the difference more clearly and succinctly in another list, so hopefully it might help here:

*.dns is a meta-TLD. You cannot register meta-TLDs. You own them already. There is therefore no need to register them. There might exist other terms for this concept, but I wasn't aware of them.

Cheers,
Greg

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On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> wrote:

> Paul,
> 
> Your understanding is incorrect.
> 
>> If the idea is that I can get a certificate with paulehoffman.dns 
> 
> That is not the idea. Docs are on GitHub, and I know you're smart enough to comprehend them.
> 
>> If this TLD gets allocated to someone else, or gets blocked by middleboxes
> 
> It cannot get allocated by anyone else. It is designed specifically for DNSChain servers, and they will not look that up in the old DNS networks.
> 
> You can definitely fork the 120k and own it on the old network. It doesn't matter.
> 
> Documentation, that has gone through considerable improvements in the last 24 hours, is still available at the same URL:
> 
> https://github.com/okTurtles/dnschain
> 
> Cheers,
> Greg
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> On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's a meta-TLD, not a TLD.
>> 
>> Say what? If the idea is that I can get a certificate with paulehoffman.dns put in the field reserved for domain names, and have that accepted by TLS servers, it is a TLD. No "meta".
>> 
>> If this TLD gets allocated to someone else, or gets blocked by middleboxes, you have no one to blame but yourself. It would be *trivial* to avoid this problem by buying an SLD and pre-paying for 20 years of registration.
>> 
>> --Paul Hoffman
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