Re: [therightkey] First public DNSChain server went online yesterday!

David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> Sat, 08 February 2014 19:04 UTC

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On Feb 7, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> wrote:
> No need to push a centralized authority on anyone.

What happens when someone else decides to use the .dns "meta-TLD" (as you call it) for something other than DNSChain?

>> 1) You are going to cause sending junk queries all over the internet.
>>   What are your plans to preven/reduce that?
> 
> Sorry, I don't understand what the problem is? Could you elaborate?

https://www.icann.org/en/about/staff/security/ssr/name-collision-mitigation-05dec13-en.pdf

>> 2) Why do you need a TLD .dns, and why can't you use a $15/year
>>   iwillneverrunnameservershere.org
> 
> 
> It's a meta-TLD, not a TLD.

You might want to look at RFC 6761.

Regards,
-drc