Re: Call for participation -- Is OSI really useful?
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From: "Peter Williams, Sterling Software" </S=williams/OU=atlas/O=NASA/PRMD=ARC/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com>
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Subject: Re: Call for participation -- Is OSI really useful?
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> John Day <Day@BBN.COM> writes: >> >>For those of you familiar with Chicago politics, if the Internet is the >>dirt road being paved as the NII, the contractor building it is putting >>too much oatmeal in the concrete. The potholes will be so bad, it will >>need repaving before it is finished. Id urge those who have invested in OSI products and services not to lose their nerve. There are an impressive number of complete GOSIP solutions being presented to the DoD DMS tender, founded upon a fast evolving realignment of the US IT industry in which bid consortia are forging and deforging at a quite remarkable rate. What works and it available off the shelf is now being shaken out by the buyer's market; it doesnt require hand-wringing of high-politics. I believe the strategy of the DoD buyer is to give the OSI donkey one last kick; otherwise drop it very publicly. So now is the moment, if you believe that the Dod IT requirement is that shared by many a money-spining corporate solution. The companies and individuals who stand most to gain from the Internet emergence as a commercial force know one thing well - that the nature of the business telematics companies are is - global (not regional) service provision. The world is likely to be competitive set of global data networks much like the broadcasting industry; perhaps 6 bigs ones, and their many affilates, each competing for _sectorial_ business, based upon the qualities of their offerings. The model of the backplane works fine in the brave new world, as the means to ensure that the consumer stays in charge, can defeat the evil phone companies plans to ensnare them with a teletex terminal, minimise the possibility of being reduced to one particular set of service options offered by the various protocol suites offered by all the global net provider(s) for their own profit maximisation and minimal liability, and by their being at least one means by which info can be transported between the communities to ensure full connectivity. I believe I agree with Bob Stover - OSI is for the interconnection of systems, being available based upon minimal technical agreement over the mere adoption of the (profiled) standard by both parties. The only counter example Ive seen to this is the work of DEC DCA, in which, yes, an effective business-oriented OSI distributed system is now purchasable, should you be willing to pay. Perhaps consider the example of ICL - it made far more money selling its EDI VAN (using backbone X.400) services than ever it did selling X.400 "solutions" directly. So much so, it managed to sell the "sectorial market" it created! Finally, its worth noting that the IT service industry that went down the OSI route is, from NASA's own peculiar mixed-world vantage, getting to grips finally (sigh!) with what its all about - finding a service market, a pricing formula, and structuring the competitive response of mixed IT and telecomm provider groups to variously meet the *global* challenge. This is not the subject matter of standards committees, researchers, or even developers of implementations; is do or die time in the IT market, simply. This is no time to fret, or loose confidence, at the formation of the vicious service competition from the Internet (service) providers! Respond by forming new inter-company ventures; and grab a piece of the commercial cake. Peter.
- Call for participation -- Is OSI really useful? laurae
- Call for participation -- Is OSI really useful? laurae
- Re: Call for participation -- Is OSI really usefu… John Day
- Re: Call for participation -- Is OSI really usefu… Simon E Spero
- Re[2]: Call for participation -- Is OSI really us… D_P_Sanford
- Re: Call for participation -- Is OSI really usefu… Peter Williams,Sterling Software
- Re: Call for participation -- Is OSI really usefu… John Day
- Re: Call for participation -- Is OSI really usefu… Stover, Robert