[TICTOC] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-tictoc-1588v2-yang-10: (with COMMENT)
Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Thu, 11 October 2018 14:30 UTC
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Subject: [TICTOC] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-tictoc-1588v2-yang-10: (with COMMENT)
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Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-tictoc-1588v2-yang-10: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tictoc-1588v2-yang/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I've cleared my discuss, since the discussion I wanted to make sure happened has happened. I'm copying it below for reference purposes: <old-discuss> §2 contains the following paragraph: " The readers are assumed to be familiar with IEEE 1588-2008. As all PTP terminologies and PTP data set attributes are described in details in IEEE 1588-2008 [IEEE1588], this document only outlines each of them in the YANG module." If I understand correctly, IEEE 1588-2008 is not available without payment. If so, then I don't see how we can assume that reviewers of this draft are actually familiar with IEEE 1588-2008. It seems like that makes it hard for the draft to get sufficient review to be considered a standards-track IETF consensus document. I recognize that we do not have a policy against normative references to paywalled sources, but I read the disclaimer to make the IEEE document more foundational than just any normative reference. </old-discuss> §1, 2nd bullet: "The YANG module of this document MAY be revised..." That seems more a statement of fact than permission. §2.2, definition of "static": If it "typically" doesn't change, does that mean it sometimes does change? -- 5th paragraph: "In such a case, an implementation MAY choose to return a warning upon writing to a read-only member" MAY seems week here; does it ever make sense to silently write to a read-only member? Appendix A: The appendix seems more like a liaison statement than something that belongs in an RFC defining a data model. Won't this become outdated whenever the change of control is (or is not) made? If it does need to go in an RFC, have people considered publishing it separately from the model?
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