Re: [tlp-interest] A clerical correction to the IETF Trust Legal Provisions 5.0

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From: "Deen, Glenn" <Glenn_Deen@comcast.com>
To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: [tlp-interest] A clerical correction to the IETF Trust Legal Provisions 5.0
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On 9/14/21, 1:17 AM, "tlp-interest on behalf of Lars Eggert" <tlp-interest-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of lars@eggert.org> wrote:

    Hi,

    On 2021-9-13, at 22:15, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
    > The boilerplace is just three paragraphs of text.  I don't see how would putting it in markdown would make any difference other than perhaps making the URLs linkier.

    it would allow GitHub users and others to include the Markdown text directly (and ideally have it automatically update), rather than screen-scraping an HTML page.

    If screen-scraping is still the way to go, could a publication timestamp be added to those pages that have boilerplate text, so one would know when something has changed?

I don't either of the these ideas are good - Markdown formatted for including, or screen scraping are ok.

I don't think the Trust's published license material should be included in an automatic "include" / "pull-down".   Not only does that (1)  build a dependency that in the future can easily break, and result in built materials not getting any licensing information included - but it also  (2) can cause licensing conflicts if the Trust publishes UPDATE or NEW licensing materials and these automated includes either keep on including the OLD version or they incorrectly begin including the NEW version into situations where it doesn't correctly apply.

There is an important value in having a human in the loop, reading instructions, understanding applicability and making decisions.    This isn't just an updated set of header files in a build, this is legal material which carries a lot of context which must be considered.

-glenn