Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in IANA Parameter Registry Data
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Subject: Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in IANA Parameter Registry Data
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- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Russ Housley
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… John Levine
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Russ Housley
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Saeid Hob Shoar
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… R. Atkinson
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… John Levine
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Sawai Somnuek
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… R. Atkinson
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Salz, Rich
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… R. Atkinson
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Deen, Glenn
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… John Levine
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… swift
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… John Levine
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Deen, Glenn
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… John R Levine
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Deen, Glenn
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Salz, Rich
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… John R. Levine
- Re: [tlp-interest] [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed Policy… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Dick Franks
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… sema irmak
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Timothy Mcsweeney
- Re: [tlp-interest] Proposed Policy on Rights in I… Timothy Mcsweeney